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Old 05-18-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Look .... this is just a reference that shows you are wrong. There are many things in use that are not and haven't been patented. Lots of inventors or particular pieces of a technology avoid patents because they expose the details of the invention which then becomes part of the public domain after patent protection expires. Patent information is a sure fire way to duplicate technology, and is often avoided for that reason.
No... it is a reference showing that somebody has patented an idea. It is not evidence that there actually is any such thing as a thermite shaped charge.

I have worked with thermite. It's awesome for burning a hole straight down. It's great for destroying an engine block or a cannon tube. It is useless for cutting a vertical steel beam. Especially when we already have so many other great tools that actually can do the job.

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In the case of thermite ... which was first discovered in the 1800's, is not a new technology ... pretty old really. And it's safe to say that it's been used for decades to cut steel, with a shaped charge being essential to control the thermitic reaction. These fellows simply applied for a patent of their specific delivery mechanism, which they believe is unique and patentable.
It's safe to say anything on an Internet forum, even stuff that is not true. Thermite has not been "used for decades" to cut vertical steel beams. It still cannot be used for the purpose today.

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Suffice it to say that it is common knowledge that civilian technology lags behind military/classified technology anywhere from 15 to 30 years, depending on who you believe. Classified technology is never patented for obvious reasons even the most dense knuckleheads would surely understand.
That's the problem with "common knowledge." It is indistinguishable from wild rumors and speculation. I have held an SCI clearance and had custodial responsibility for nuclear warheads. The most common area of training in such a role is the emergency destruction of the warheads to make them unusable to unauthorized individuals or organizations. We use the best technology to destroy these weapons that is available.

There is no such thing as a thermite shaped charge.

 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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Names can be deceiving. Truthers, for instance.
If memory serves me, I believe it was the Liars who so copyrighted the label, "Truthers".

And, the Liars are on the other side of the Truthers.

Never forget - A is A.

Do you want to switch now, and refer to yourself as a Truther?

Hey! What with "A being A" an' all, go head, make my day.


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Old 05-18-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Is there an ignore button here somewhere?
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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Is there an ignore button here somewhere?
Thermite also melts tin foil.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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39 pages of comic book guys and Sheldons?
 
Old 05-18-2010, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No... it is a reference showing that somebody has patented an idea. It is not evidence that there actually is any such thing as a thermite shaped charge.

I have worked with thermite. It's awesome for burning a hole straight down. It's great for destroying an engine block or a cannon tube. It is useless for cutting a vertical steel beam. Especially when we already have so many other great tools that actually can do the job.


It's safe to say anything on an Internet forum, even stuff that is not true. Thermite has not been "used for decades" to cut vertical steel beams. It still cannot be used for the purpose today.


That's the problem with "common knowledge." It is indistinguishable from wild rumors and speculation. I have held an SCI clearance and had custodial responsibility for nuclear warheads. The most common area of training in such a role is the emergency destruction of the warheads to make them unusable to unauthorized individuals or organizations. We use the best technology to destroy these weapons that is available.

There is no such thing as a thermite shaped charge.
exactly, and well said


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Old 05-18-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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Do a patent search, scratch some diagrams or drawings, pay $75.00 and file a provisional.

That will give you one year to file a full patent application while retaining your priority date.

Articulation is crucial, so most folks hire patent attorneys.
I'm digging myself out of a bit of a hole. Down the road a bit I'll do just what you said.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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What ... rocks? or Patents?
 
Old 05-18-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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Just pulling your leg !!! Sometimes dry humor can be misunderstood!
 
Old 05-18-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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Thermite also melts tin foil.
quite well actually but it doesn't do squat for demolition. It can be used to make Machinery inoperable tho.
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