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If you make it mandatory that you must see a social security card, with picture ID on it, and it will be ran before employment can begin, it would end most illegal immigration.
Somewhere over 90% of all Americans have a social security number. Those who don't have one are either very young, or object to it based on religious reasons.
Still, most Americans have the card, and it wouldn't be hard to require you to carry one.
I carry mine with me all the time, and my sons. Thats because when I'm asked for two forms of ID, its my drivers license, and my SSC.
I see no reason why we shouldn't just put a picture on the card, and require that for employment. If someone hires you without running your card, then they should go to jail.
As long as you support these measures than you are ok. The problem is that I feel there are people who oppose these measures but support the Arizona law, not realizing the ramifications. This does not apply to you as you have no problem with a compulsory national identification that must be carried at all times.
RFID chips have already been implanted into employees which allow employers to monitor their whearabouts 24 hours a day.
When? Where? Have I been implanted?? Hmmm.... that might explain the invisible black helicopters hovering over my house at night that only *I* can hear! I'd better use heavy duty foil for my next cyber beanie! That will stop them!! Now if only those squirrels would stop watching me...
Seriously, RFID chips in and of themselves mean nothing and are already used in many products for inventory tracking. (That doesn't mean I'm signing up for the implant though.) They're useless without readers. My employer is already tracking me electronically while at work (it's the nature of my job) but you're saying that every employer will have to install a cadre of tracking scanners everywhere?
As long as you support these measures than you are ok. The problem is that I feel there are people who oppose these measures but support the Arizona law, not realizing the ramifications. This does not apply to you as you have no problem with a compulsory national identification that must be carried at all times.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want police checking for your ID all the time. But, in my everyday life, I have to show someone my social security card at least once a month.
I use my drivers license for most of my ID needs, but every now and then, I need two forms of ID.
Most Americans have a Social Security card. If we are going to have a national ID, I don't see the need to start a whole new card system, when we've already got the SSC.
If you make it mandatory that you must see a social security card, with picture ID on it, and it will be ran before employment can begin, it would end most illegal immigration.
SS cards do not have photos.
E-Verify is a great idea and should be mandatory for each and every job which pays wages in this country.
When? Where? Have I been implanted?? Hmmm.... that might explain the invisible black helicopters hovering over my house at night that only *I* can hear! I'd better use heavy duty foil for my next cyber beanie! That will stop them!! Now if only those squirrels would stop watching me...
Seriously, RFID chips in and of themselves mean nothing and are already used in many products for inventory tracking. (That doesn't mean I'm signing up for the implant though.) They're useless without readers. My employer is already tracking me electronically while at work (it's the nature of my job) but you're saying that every employer will have to install a cadre of tracking scanners everywhere?
Not falling for your strawman. I never made those assertions, nice try though.
But, in my everyday life, I have to show someone my social security card at least once a month.
I use my drivers license for most of my ID needs, but every now and then, I need two forms of ID.
Most Americans have a Social Security card. If we are going to have a national ID, I don't see the need to start a whole new card system, when we've already got the SSC.
Really? My SS card was issued in 1960 and has never seen the light of day. I've never been asked to present it for any job or the opening of any account. I've used a passport when positive proof of identity and citizenship is needed. I've also been the subject of more (and more thorough) background investigations than 99.999% of anyone here and never needed to show it as part of that process. Day-to-day, my DL and employer ID works for anything I've ever needed.
Not falling for your strawman. I never made those assertions, nice try though.
No, you stated in the OP that RFID chips have been implanted that employers may track their employees. Examples, please, of both the voluntary implant and tracking measures.
I would have no problem with the mandatory issuance of national ID cards. Carrying at all times should not be mandatory, but I would favor making avoidance of such carry less convenient - without a card you would not be able to open accounts, obtain any form of employment, obtain emergency healthcare, obtain any form of government service, enroll your children in school, etc.
No, you stated in the OP that RFID chips have been implanted that employers may track their employees. Examples, please, of both the voluntary implant and tracking measures.
I would have no problem with the mandatory issuance of national ID cards. Carrying at all times should not be mandatory, but I would favor making avoidance of such carry less convenient - without a card you would not be able to open accounts, obtain any form of employment, obtain emergency healthcare, obtain any form of government service, enroll your children in school, etc.
Than this is good news to you.
Last edited by Holdencaulfield; 05-11-2010 at 10:53 AM..
People keep harping on the idea of having to have id while "out on a run" or "walking the dog" or whatever. I don't know where that comes from since nothing like that has been suggested. However, if you DON'T think that carrying some kind of id while out and about is a good idea (not "required by law" just "common sense") you are just not all that bright anyway and there is no point in debating the issue.
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