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Old 05-18-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Texas is an example of what happens when politics enters schools, history is revisited by politicians who want to change it because they don't like it. Science too. Pathetic. This attempt by Texas board of education has a parallel in history... Nazi Germany. Revise history, and toss a dose of Christianity to brainwash future generations.
Can you tell me what the Texas people will say about the people who primarily were the builders of the first transcontinental railroad? If so how about California? Do all you who worry about the fact that Texas buys all those books and distributes them so they have the ear of publishers care at all about any of the minority story about that very important part of our history or do you only know about the religious question that we hear so much about?
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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TX and AZ can't tell what MA must do. By not adopting MA's rule on gay marriage, TX and AZ are technically doing what CA is doing to TX.
I would say that you are completely wrong about this. Neither Texas or Arizona tried to change anything Massachusetts did about sex or medicine but California is trying to pass a bill that goes against Texas. Maybe they know out there in California that they will soon be so broke that they can't influence what their books say.

Not doing anything sure isn't the same thing as trying to play defense, just in case. Texas doesn't make their final decision till later this week. Why would California be playing games ahead of Texas?
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Can you tell me what the Texas people will say about the people who primarily were the builders of the first transcontinental railroad? If so how about California? Do all you who worry about the fact that Texas buys all those books and distributes them so they have the ear of publishers care at all about any of the minority story about that very important part of our history or do you only know about the religious question that we hear so much about?
Why should history be different based on region? I said that earlier, and repeat it here. History shouldn't be about perception, it should be about facts. When you deliberately remove facts and insert your own whims, you're bound to be questioned.

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I would say that you are completely wrong about this. Neither Texas or Arizona tried to change anything Massachusetts did about sex or medicine but California is trying to pass a bill that goes against Texas. Maybe they know out there in California that they will soon be so broke that they can't influence what their books say.
Where did I say they did? All I said was, gay marriage was a MA issue and remained as such. TX and AZ have their own laws. MA ain't taking any issue with it. TX is free to have its own will, to be run by libertarians or as is currently the case, be run by authoritarians. Now, do TX and AZ recognize MA's law and uphold gay marriages performed in MA or any other state? Think about it, then worry why you have an issue with CA not respecting ideas from Texas politicians.

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Not doing anything sure isn't the same thing as trying to play defense, just in case. Texas doesn't make their final decision till later this week. Why would California be playing games ahead of Texas?
Why does it matter? It ain't law in CA yet either. They are considering it, should Texas go ahead with its stupidity.

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Old 05-18-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So California is acting against AZ.
So California is acting against TX.

Does California think they are the Federal government ?
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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So California is acting against AZ.
So California is acting against TX.

Does California think they are the Federal government ?
No. but California certainly isn't going to tolerate ignorance. If it is OK in Texas that creationism is taught in public schools then that's their right. But don't expect other states to buy into such stupid nonsense.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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Anyone feel like we're in the middle of a circular firing squad?

States are boycotting states, it's not the South that's still fighting the war! It's the ultra-left welfare states.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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Can you tell me what the Texas people will say about the people who primarily were the builders of the first transcontinental railroad? If so how about California? Do all you who worry about the fact that Texas buys all those books and distributes them so they have the ear of publishers care at all about any of the minority story about that very important part of our history or do you only know about the religious question that we hear so much about?
Texas is the number 2 consumer of textbooks in the US? Guess who is number 1? I'd say I know who has the publishers' ears.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Now, do TX and AZ recognize MA's law and uphold gay marriages performed in MA or any other state? Think about it, then worry why you have an issue with CA not respecting ideas from Texas politicians.

Why does it matter? It ain't law in CA yet either. They are considering it, should Texas go ahead with its stupidity.
Texas does not recognize gay marriage so it would just as well follow that Texas would not grant a gay couple from MA a divorce. No "not honoring" there..just following the law.

And that gay couple made a stink about it. Heck, they should have known that when they moved to Texas and then decided to get "divorced". Can't get divorced if the state doesn't recognize their marriage.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:23 PM
 
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Anyone feel like we're in the middle of a circular firing squad?

States are boycotting states, it's not the South that's still fighting the war! It's the ultra-left welfare states.
They're not boycotting the state, they're saying their not going to buy white washed propaganda that's going to dumb down public education (even further). The state will just buy textbooks that have history that isn't poorly written.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:30 PM
 
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Slippery slope. Why should history of America be dealt differently by state? Why should politicians decide what history or science is, and how it should be taught?

We're one nation. We ought to learn one history. Revising history is for losers, as is the case with Texas board of education. Tell me, what makes them qualified to impose their will on future generations?
Well, I think you're giving too much control to the federal government, especially with regard to teaching history, civics, government...That's too much power yielded over impressionable kids to train them to be govbots. The constitution calls for local/state control of education.
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