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Old 05-22-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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I'd gladly become vegetarian if veggies actually tasted good.
Sounds like you need to learn how to cook!
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:47 PM
 
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Sounds like you need to learn how to cook!
Not just myself, but everyone else too. Seriously, even fancy restaurant veggie dishes don't taste good. To me anyway.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:03 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Not just myself, but everyone else too. Seriously, even fancy restaurant veggie dishes don't taste good. To me anyway.
Sounds more like a mental issue than a culinary one
I grew up on a normal mixed diet before I became a vegan at 18. We used to eat BBQ stuff and just like most vegetarians - except for veggie-fascists such as radical Peta members - I have no problem at all saying that I liked it. I stopped eating that food because of moral reasons, not because I all of a sudden thought it did not taste good anymore.
Saying there are no delicious meat dishes on my part would be just as ridiculous as saying there are no delicious vegetarian dishes on meat-eaters' part.

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Old 05-23-2010, 05:14 AM
 
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I rarely eat meat for many reasons, but, I find that it is really odd that many people will sort of attack vegetarians verbally and rudely. It seems to happen if somebody has made the commitment to eat in a healthy way or in respect and kindness to animals. Does anybody have any insight to this as I'm pondering this subject a lot and I'm not coming up with many answers I find it wonderful when somebody respect themselves like this
There will always be a few fundamentalist out there that like to cause trouble.
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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Sounds more like a mental issue than a culinary one
I grew up on a normal mixed diet before I became a vegan at 18. We used to eat BBQ stuff and just like most vegetarians - except for veggie-fascists such as radical Peta members - I have no problem at all saying that I liked it. I stopped eating that food because of moral reasons, not because I all of a sudden thought it did not taste good anymore.
Saying there are no delicious meat dishes on my part would be just as ridiculous as saying there are no delicious vegetarian dishes on meat-eaters' part.
Of course it's mental. Taste is all in the mind, and is a personal matter that isn't chosen. That's the point I was making. This is why it drives me nuts when vegans et al want everyone to convert to their ways. Not everyone has the same taste preferences they do. One size does not fit all, which is why trying to convert everyone to a set way of eating is futile. Stating that one doesn't like certain types of food is in no way ridiculous as it is a personal thing, and is different for every individual.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:26 AM
 
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Of course it's mental. Taste is all in the mind, and is a personal matter that isn't chosen. That's the point I was making. This is why it drives me nuts when vegans et al want everyone to convert to their ways. Not everyone has the same taste preferences they do. One size does not fit all, which is why trying to convert everyone to a set way of eating is futile. Stating that one doesn't like certain types of food is in no way ridiculous as it is a personal thing, and is different for every individual.
In my opinion you are either not telling the truth or have hardly tried any of those thousands of vegetarian dishes out there. That was my point when I said I don't believe either side when they say they like any dish of the other side.

Let's look at it this way: If you say you don't like any vegetarian dish, it makes me wonder if your diet consists of 100% animal stuff. If not, why do you eat the potatoes, rice, pasta, etc. that come with your, say, steak? Are you forced at gunpoint? Potatoes are potatoes, good potatoes don't taste worse just because there is no steak on the same plate.

Apart from that, taste is not fixed, it can be changed, though it gets more difficult the older one is. Taste is not genetic, it is largely acquired during childhood. That's why you find so much candy near the check-out in supermarkets
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:21 AM
 
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I rarely eat meat for many reasons, but, I find that it is really odd that many people will sort of attack vegetarians verbally and rudely. It seems to happen if somebody has made the commitment to eat in a healthy way or in respect and kindness to animals. Does anybody have any insight to this as I'm pondering this subject a lot and I'm not coming up with many answers I find it wonderful when somebody respect themselves like this

I don't attack vegetarians myself however if I see someone has made a comment I know to not be the truth and I know other wise I will make my own comment back.

If someone choices to be a Vegetarian that is their choice I have no problem with it. But if I choice to eat meat that is my choice is it not.

If I happen to get information as some vegetarians have said they have got and that change their eating habits let it be with honesty and in a non violent manner.

I seriously doubt I will ever give up meat. I"m a lost cause on this subject. Or perhaps I'm a winner on this subject depends on how you look at it.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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It's a common human trait to attack those that do not validate one's choices, and befriend those that do. Don't concern yourself with what others do, I am quite certain that if you keep your focus on your own habits and choices you will have plenty to concern yourself with for the duration of your time here.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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It seems to happen if somebody has made the commitment to eat in a healthy way or in respect and kindness to animals. Does anybody have any insight to this as I'm pondering this subject a lot and I'm not coming up with many answers I find it wonderful when somebody respect themselves like this
I totally agree. As I said previously, I hunt for most of my meat and believe it is a way of respecting and showing kindness toward animals and nature. Anyone who is truely an environmentalist, as I am, will want proper management of animals maintained and that means harvesting some to maintain a healthy population. By respecting the animals and nature in this way, one is respecting one's self. I don't believe someone can truely say he respects nature and be against proper management. That's disingenious and is masking a deeper disrespect for one's self.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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I rarely eat meat for many reasons, but, I find that it is really odd that many people will sort of attack vegetarians verbally and rudely. It seems to happen if somebody has made the commitment to eat in a healthy way or in respect and kindness to animals. Does anybody have any insight to this as I'm pondering this subject a lot and I'm not coming up with many answers I find it wonderful when somebody respect themselves like this
I think normal people resent the delusional, while at the same time holier-than-thou attitude of these misguided people. For example, your OP reeks of holier-than-thou. Like because you don't eat meat you somehow respect and are kinder to animals. Animals are part of what I like to refer to as "the food chain". It is their job, their proper role in nature, to accumulate nutrients in their flesh and offer it up to the next higher link in the food chain (such as "me") for consumpiton.

You deprive animals of their employment, their self-actualization, when you don't eat them. They exist to be eaten. Haven't you ever heard of the law of the jungle "eat and be eaten"? It isn't "eat, and die of old age"!!
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