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Old 05-21-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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Republican presidents had 20 years and nothing, Obama has had 16 months..Give him time. He's done with Healthcare and Financial Reform, Immigration's next. Obama is actually doing something unlike those other 3.
He wants amnesty for illegals. That's the reform he wants.
He knows well that it is not going to pass right now that's why he is so angry at what Arizona is doing.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Sorry, buy you don't discuss amnesty for illegal aliens.
Then oppose it, but at least be open to a debate and do something about it, instead of postponing the reform altogether. Arizona could have pushed this issue through its senators, did it? Nope.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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So why is Congress not doing anything to fix that.
The Arizona anti-illegal law is a desperate cry.
I think it has worked already by drawing so much attention to the problem.
..probably because the party of NO doesn't want reform. They didn't try during 20 years of republican administrations, why would you expect them to work with a Dem administration they haven't attempted to work with at all?
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:38 PM
 
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He wants amnesty for illegals. That's the reform he wants.
He knows well that it is not going to pass right now that's why he is so angry at what Arizona is doing.
Arizona isn't doing anything but placating the baggers. Amnesty for some should be a part of reform for some not all.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:38 PM
 
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Then oppose it, but at least be open to a debate and do something about it, instead of postponing the reform altogether. Arizona could have pushed this issue through its senators, did it? Nope.
The Governor of Arizona wrote five letters to the president
asking to help with the problem he didn't bother to respond.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:39 PM
 
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LOL...Where was the nonsense talk of impeaching under Reagan, Bush and Bush? Selective anger?
No.

I don't think that any president since Nixon has deserved to be impeached (Clinton included) until Obama took office. I did not like Carter, but he did nothing of the sort of tactics that Obama is employing. Obama has betrayed his oath of office by his unwillingness to enforce laws and prefers to selectively enforce laws to his liking. This is not a republic, it is a fascist state under Obama. The law supercedes the will of any individual and ANY PRESIDENT. Those presidents that refuse to obey and enforce the law of the land risk the rath of the people.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The Governor of Arizona wrote five letters to the president
asking to help with the problem he didn't bother to respond.
Link?

What were the senators doing? Isn't that the proper channel to begin with?
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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..probably because the party of NO doesn't want reform. They didn't try during 20 years of republican administrations, why would you expect them to work with a Dem administration they haven't attempted to work with at all?
What are you talking about? Dems had a super-majority in Congress for quite a while.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:42 PM
 
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Amnesty for some should be a part of reform for some not all.
No, it shouldn't. How about that?
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:43 PM
 
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Link?

What were the senators doing? Isn't that the proper channel to begin with?
She said it in an interview. Look it up if you want.
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