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Old 05-22-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:49 AM
 
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Reagan did some great things, but he was no fiscal conservative. He ran up the largest deficits in history to date and he certainly wasn't open to minorities (just look back at his ignorance as to why poor black people didn't just move).

Still, he was a very good president for that time just as Obama is a very good president for our current needs.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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I don't hate Obama, but I would likes he considers more small businesses, he does nothing for them, as Bush...These 2 presidents are too big business-friendly.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I don't hate Obama, but I would likes he considers more small businesses, he does nothing for them, as Bush...These 2 presidents are too big business-friendly.
Well, my friend, I'm getting the feeling you weren't around or were very young during the Reagan era.

It was Reagan who opened the floodgates for big business economic treason. That is when the train whose destination was the destruction of the American middle got going under a full head of steam and all Presidents since have just been along for the ride.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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Well, my friend, I'm getting the feeling you weren't around or were very young during the Reagan era.

It was Reagan who opened the floodgates for big business economic treason. That is when the train whose destination was the destruction of the American middle got going under a full head of steam and all Presidents since have just been along for the ride.
I was born in 1987 and in France, effectively I didn't know this era.But I studied history, and Reagan helped economic growth to resume, he repaired Carter's faults.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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I was born in 1987 and in France, effectively I didn't know this era.But I studied history, and Reagan helped economic growth to resume, he repaired Carter's faults.
That's what I thought.

It's a long story and I'm not going to try to re-tell it here as there are lots of sources on the web that put the Reagan presidency into proper perspective.

Reagan was an actor and was good at one thing - getting in front of a camera and charming viewers with warmth and wit. And yes - America did need that badly in 1980.

But by no means did he repair Carter's faults. He just replaced them with his own - chief among them being naive trust in big business that they would do the right thing if he "got government off their backs". He did....and they didn't. His administration's policies put America on a downhill slope that has culminated in crisis 20 years later. Crisis that leaves many of us fearing we will never again see American greatness like which we took for granted in the 50s and 60s. More and more people are seeing America's best years behind us rather than ahead of us and the beginning of the end was during the Reagan era.

But charming he was. I voted for him enthusiastically in 1984, but within two years I realized that I'd been had - along with most of the rest of the country. Some people to this day can't see past the charm they saw on the surface and continue to say he was a great President. How I wish that were true.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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I know many American men begging for Carla Bruni.
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