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Old 05-24-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I just really do not understand this country sometimes. Millions of low lifes who want to smoke their dope, do their meth and snort their Coccaine. But the USA really does not do anything about these people except send the poor ones to prison while the rich ones in Hollywood and NY get "rehab" and go on TV and cry to Barbara Walters about it.
But instead of dealing with the demand side, the United States feels the need to go to Jamaica and virtually wreck one of the best places in the Caribbean by demanding that THEY hand over some drug lord there that has NEVER set foot in the United States and did not "export" anything over here that we didn't want to buy from him. It is not like he came over, did a crime and ran off back to Jamaica.
And now, because of this, they have brought what was a lovely place (been there twice) to the brink of civil war and a failed state. Pretty much like Mexico. But the implications for this will be bad for the United States. Just like when the USA forced Cuba to fail which brought Communism to the western hemisphere and 500,000 plus "boat people" to the shores of Miami, this will be far worse.
Although I do not expect the US government to use any brains because it is pretty evident to me that they are in short supply up there these days, maybe we need to think about "what might happen" when we do totally STUPID crap like pressure a country in our own hemisphere to do something that it had warned us would be a danger.
If it fails, it will be on our hands along with about a million or so "refugees". So I suggest that the US Dept of Justice back off and mind its own frigging business and worry about the drugs being used HERE. Otherwise I hope all of us get a good taste for Ox Tail and Jerked Chicken- especially if you live in Florida or NYC because about a million of them will be coming.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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As far as I'm concerned you should just bulldoze mosto of it into the sea and start over.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Jamaica isn't exactly a paradise, if you get out of the resort areas.

But, I agree, the United States should leave other countries alone. Legalize the drugs here in the states, regulate them, and then "drug lords" won't have any money to deal with.

Prohibition got started because 70% of the US population above the age of 15, was going through about 10 fifths of alcohol every year. After prohibition, our alcohol consumption isn't even half of that today, because alcohol was regulated, taxed, and made to expensive for people to go and buy without the extra cash to do it.

Sure, there will always be whinos and alcoholics who take things to far, but their percentage is quite small compared to those that use alcohol in a safe and responsible manner.

The same would happen with some "illicit drugs", if they were legalized.

Marijuana should be legalized, and regulated to have prices about the same as alcohol, and cocaine should be legalized and have a price so high, that you couldn't afford to buy it but maybe twice a year.

Let the degenerates of society make their mistakes, the vast majority of us will be just fine.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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I just really do not understand this country sometimes. Millions of low lifes who want to smoke their dope, do their meth and snort their Coccaine.
What? The millions of Americans, including myself, that smoke pot are all "low lifes"?
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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Jamaica has quite handily ruined itself. Read some history about Michael Manley's People's Socialist National Party (PNP) cozying up to Cuba in the 1970's. Jamaica also makes me wonder is we should be in such a hurry to legalize pot...it hasn't done Jamaica any favors.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Jamaica has quite handily ruined itself. Read some history about Michael Manley's People's Socialist National Party (PNP) cozying up to Cuba in the 1970's. Jamaica also makes me wonder is we should be in such a hurry to legalize pot...it hasn't done Jamaica any favors.
Um,

The cultivation, sale, and consumption of marijuana is illegal in Jamaica.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Um,

The cultivation, sale, and consumption of marijuana is illegal in Jamaica.
So?
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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I've been to Jamaica a few times myself, and off-resort it's always been a 3rd world country (ok, maybe 2.5 world). They have long standing poverty and political issues.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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What? The millions of Americans, including myself, that smoke pot are all "low lifes"?
You are contributing to the blood shed of other people.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Jamaica isn't exactly a paradise, if you get out of the resort areas.

But, I agree, the United States should leave other countries alone. Legalize the drugs here in the states, regulate them, and then "drug lords" won't have any money to deal with.

Prohibition got started because 70% of the US population above the age of 15, was going through about 10 fifths of alcohol every year. After prohibition, our alcohol consumption isn't even half of that today, because alcohol was regulated, taxed, and made to expensive for people to go and buy without the extra cash to do it.

Sure, there will always be whinos and alcoholics who take things to far, but their percentage is quite small compared to those that use alcohol in a safe and responsible manner.

The same would happen with some "illicit drugs", if they were legalized.

Marijuana should be legalized, and regulated to have prices about the same as alcohol, and cocaine should be legalized and have a price so high, that you couldn't afford to buy it but maybe twice a year.

Let the degenerates of society make their mistakes, the vast majority of us will be just fine.
I agree. It just really irks me that we blame everybody else- poor Jamaicans- for OUR problem. The PM over there should have told us to go to hell. He should have had the guts to say "drugs are a problem in YOUR country because you wanted them to be a problem in YOUR country. They are not a problem in OUR country so mind your own GD business"!
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