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Old 05-27-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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I remember when as a young man, I went to the doc and there was one or two docs in the office, maybe a nurse, and one office worker who wore many hats.
Now I go to the doc and it's still one or two docs and maybe a nurse with at least 4 office personnel, who seem to be perpetually eating and expanding, for each doc. Gotta wonder.
Quite. The amount of administration doctors have to deal with is crazy. So is the system. For example, when my wife had a surgical procedure why does she/insurance get separate bills from half a dozen different doctors plus the facilty plus this and plus that. Surely the admin can be streamlined and made much more efficient.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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I'm also predicting the government will try to make this practice illegal as it will claim it's "discriminatory" towards people who were forced to purchase insurance in the first place.
God, I hope the government doesn't ruin something else that's good like this. My roommate went to one of these doctors the other day. He said it reminded him of the doctors when he saw when he was growing up; in other words, there was a *much* better physician-patient relationship. My roommate had some time to talk with the doctor and the doctor said he basically got fed up with working for the insurance company. Before he turned his practice into cash only, the insurance dictated a large portion of how his practice was run; he couldn't spend as much time as he would like with patients b/c he was under constant pressure to met a certain quota that was prescribed by the insurance. Working in the health-care profession myself, I have first-hand experience of how, in large way, it is the insurance plans that are dictating a patient's care, not the doctor. It is disgusting and frustrating.

I really am counting on these cash-only doctors to return to patient-focused care instead of insurance-focused care.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:14 PM
 
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so goes your HIPAA! This is VERY INTERESTING!

HIPPA is only for healthcare PROVIDERS discussing personal patient information. A patient can say whatever they want.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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If you are so wealthy then how about you buy some of those homeless people some nice tents and some peanut butter?

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Actually, it costs less to go to him than it does to go to a provider in my network in the end. I'm also a broke grad student. Well, I'm actually somewhat wealthy but my current income is low.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Cash only clinics would be great for fairly healthy people.... but unfortunately, the unhealthy people will still not be able to afford health care.
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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If you are so wealthy then how about you buy some of those homeless people some nice tents and some peanut butter?
Uh, how about I've done this for years while I was paid six figures through charities I've contributed to? As far as my present wealth is concerned, it's principally there to preserve my retirement and sanity as I complete my Ph. D. program, without encountering financial stress.
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Cash only clinics would be great for fairly healthy people.... but unfortunately, the unhealthy people will still not be able to afford health care.
For unhealthy people, a doctor with a good relationship with their patient may help the patient become healthier through solid consultation services and gearing towards a healthier lifestyle as opposed to simply drugging someone up. Cash-only is actually cheaper than insured care in the long run for myself.
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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It's a great idea for clinic settings. It would be interesting seeing people take the money they could have paid into premiums and keep it around long enough for inpatient stays. Considering the savings rate of most people, 401(k) or regular, it's unlikely they could afford the $30k for a joint replacement (or for emergency care).
joint replacement and emergency care would be stuff covered in an insurance policy.
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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For unhealthy people, a doctor with a good relationship with their patient may help the patient become healthier through solid consultation services and gearing towards a healthier lifestyle as opposed to simply drugging someone up. Cash-only is actually cheaper than insured care in the long run for myself.
Because a healthier lifestyle can cure Gaucher's, or Fabry's or MS or Parkinsons?

For you, yes it would be cheaper than insured care, but for many people it won't work.
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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HIPPA is only for healthcare PROVIDERS discussing personal patient information. A patient can say whatever they want.
well, that's entirely up to them then ...
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