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Finally...how can he be against AZ's immigration law when it is the mirror image of the feds who have done nothing to enforce? Got a thought on this one?
It doesn't mirror federal law. Care to show me which federal immigration law allows complaints, so long as race is not the only factor. Even if it did mirror federal law, it would be unconstitutional, states can't make laws affecting federal issues.
I have a problem with the WAY YOU PRESENTED your post. It's misleading.
I dont have time to debate what he has and has not said, im merely pointing out how misleading your post is.
Do you feel your title is misleading?
No, not at all...I wrote what I heard him say while listening between his lines and added my own translations. I am sorry you did not pick up on that.
Again if the way you heard it is different than mine, I want to read it.
This thread was not started to debate what I wrote, it was started to debate what you think about what Obama had to say that may be different than what I heard him say.
It doesn't mirror federal law. Care to show me which federal immigration law allows complaints, so long as race is not the only factor. Even if it did mirror federal law, it would be unconstitutional, states can't make laws affecting federal issues.
That's debatable because states absolutely have a right to make laws to protect themselves and NO ONE can say that the illegal immigration problem in AZ is good for AZ.
"Now let me make one broader point, though, about energy. The fact that oil companies now have to go a mile underwater and then drill another three miles below that in order to hit oil tells us something about the direction of the oil industry. Extraction is more expensive, and it is going to be inherently more risky.
And so that's part of the reason you never heard me say, "Drill, baby, drill," because we can't drill our way out of the problem. It may be part of the mix as a bridge to a transition to new technologies and new energy sources, but we should be pretty modest in understanding that the easily accessible oil has already been sucked up out of the ground. And as we are moving forward, the technology gets more complicated, the oil sources are more remote, and that means that there's probably going to end up being more risk. And we as a society are going to have to make some very serious determinations in terms of what risks are we willing to accept, and that's part of what the commission, I think, has to -- is going to have to look at.
I grew up in Hawaii, where the ocean is sacred. And when you see birds flying around with -- with oil all over their feathers and turtles dying and -- you know, that's -- that doesn't just speak to the immediate economic quences (sic) -- consequences of this; this speaks to, you know, how are we caring for this incredible bounty that we have?"
- President Obama
I interpret that as "We need to get off of oil".
As I listened to this part of the Press Conference, I thought; Well said, Mr. President
Now if only the "drill baby, drill crowd" could understand it
as well
It doesn't mirror federal law. Care to show me which federal immigration law allows complaints, so long as race is not the only factor. Even if it did mirror federal law, it would be unconstitutional, states can't make laws affecting federal issues.
Another perspective...
The US Supreme Court virtually gave open license to profiling in enforcing immigration laws in its 1975 ruling that "Mexican appearance" was a valid consideration in stopping anyone to verify their citizenship status. Though subsequent court rulings held that law enforcement could not stop someone solely because of their Mexican ancestry, the "valid consideration of appearance" as a factor still stood. In other words race can be considered a relevant factor in making immigration stops. The countless lawsuits challenging profiling based on appearance have crashed hard against the near impossibility of proving that a border or street stop and arrest is made based on race. Despite its pristine, sanitized race neutral wording, the Arizona law doesn't change that. Enforcement efforts are not aimed at illegal immigrants from Canada, Europe, Asia, the Caribbean or even other Latin American countries. The target is illegal immigrants from Mexico, or as the Supreme Court put it those of "Mexican appearance."
Comprede now... if it looks like a duck, it is a duck..lol..
I am for drilling just not "drill baby drill". Is there a difference and why try to poke the eye of the pig?
I am against the AZ immigration law (even though it mirrors federal law that we are still doing nothing about, 1200 pencil pushers).
I was aware of "Bush's MMS where nothing like this ever happened, but we have been too slow to respond.
I still have not covered up the Sestak problem but I will get back to you when I have.
It is pretty obvious you did not hear what he said. If you did hear, then you were obviously unable to comprehend, perhaps the sentence structure to was too complicated.
"Now let me make one broader point, though, about energy. The fact that oil companies now have to go a mile underwater and then drill another three miles below that in order to hit oil tells us something about the direction of the oil industry. Extraction is more expensive, and it is going to be inherently more risky.
And so that's part of the reason you never heard me say, "Drill, baby, drill," because we can't drill our way out of the problem. It may be part of the mix as a bridge to a transition to new technologies and new energy sources, but we should be pretty modest in understanding that the easily accessible oil has already been sucked up out of the ground. And as we are moving forward, the technology gets more complicated, the oil sources are more remote, and that means that there's probably going to end up being more risk. And we as a society are going to have to make some very serious determinations in terms of what risks are we willing to accept, and that's part of what the commission, I think, has to -- is going to have to look at.
I grew up in Hawaii, where the ocean is sacred. And when you see birds flying around with -- with oil all over their feathers and turtles dying and -- you know, that's -- that doesn't just speak to the immediate economic quences (sic) -- consequences of this; this speaks to, you know, how are we caring for this incredible bounty that we have?"
- President Obama
I interpret that as "We need to get off of oil".
As I listened to this part of the Press Conference, I thought; Well said, Mr. President
Now if only the "drill baby, drill crowd" could understand it
as well
He definitely said he was for drilling... I am again, just asking, what is the difference between being for drilling and "drill baby drill". Can you answer that?
Here is a link where he says this, "Mr Obama stopped short of saying he regretted his decision to expand offshore drilling earlier in the year".
We may have to wait for a video to find where he said that he was "for drilling". If you listened you know he said it.
It is pretty obvious you did not hear what he said. If you did hear, then you were obviously unable to comprehend, perhaps the sentence structure to was too complicated.
Amazing how much you have added to this thread.
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