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Old 05-28-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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This is why it's divided. Comments like this from the right.


YouTube - O'Reilly to black guest, you kind of look like one [Cocaine Dealer] a little bit

Drugs Dealers are White, Black, Asian and Hispanic. O' Reilly and his views are shared by his cohorts.

Dr. Marc Lamont Hill is a Professor at Columbia University. You would have to think based on O's comment he believes all Black people are drug dealers.
God knows it never happens on the left. LOL


YouTube - Joe Biden's racist slip

At least we have sense enough not to elect them.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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shorebaby ^^^

Your right it does exist on both sides. But we are currently having an immigration debate right now in AZ racially profileing Hispanics. Led by the Republicans.

(add the Siren sound) woooooooooo wooooooooooo wooooooooooo

The Officer --Pull over -

The innocent Hispanic Man--"Yes officer. Why did you pull me over?"

The Officer --"I need to see your Green Card, License, Birth Certificate, Mother Maiden name, Driver's License and a copy of your latest Electric Bill".

The innocent Hispanic Man --"But Officer I was born here, all I have is my Drivers license.!!!!!"

The Officer---" Please step out of your vehicle"

The innocent Hispanic Man ---"Officer I'm Puerto Rican, I'm a US citizen".

The Officer --- " Wait here while I run your profile".

This will probably happen everyday to an unsuspected Hispanic person.

Another reason why this country is divided.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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shorebaby ^^^

Your right it does exist on both sides. But we are currently having an immigration debate right now in AZ racially profileing Hispanics. Led by the Republicans.

(add the Siren sound) woooooooooo wooooooooooo wooooooooooo

The Officer --Pull over -

The innocent Hispanic Man--"Yes officer. Why did you pull me over?"

The Officer --"I need to see your Green Card, License, Birth Certificate, Mother Maiden name, Driver's License and a copy of your latest Electric Bill".

The innocent Hispanic Man --"But Officer I was born here, all I have is my Drivers license.!!!!!"

The Officer---" Please step out of your vehicle"

The innocent Hispanic Man ---"Officer I'm Puerto Rican, I'm a US citizen".

The Officer --- " Wait here while I run your profile".

This will probably happen everyday to an unsuspected Hispanic person.

Another reason why this country is divided.
Oh yeah, all us stupid, evil, Arizona racists. While the illegal lovers were protesting for the non existing rights of people who shouldn't be here, THIS HAPPENED!


YouTube - Arizona, Pinal County Sheriff's Deputy Was Shot By Illegal Alien With AK-47 April 30 2010
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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Perfect example of "I'm right, you're wrong and that's that..no discussion, no debate, no compromise." Then go on to demean, belittle and marginalize them.

I see this going on constantly in the government.
Reminds me of a dictatorship trying to get complete control because they know what's best and all other options have 0 value.
Boo hoo! I'm being intolerant of your intolerence.....LOL
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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I also don't think you can judge the country by this forum.

Also because of the very nature of this forum (politics and other controversies) does not lend itself to compromise.
I agree.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Desert kid.

Illegal lover no not me.

I just disagree with the new AZ law. Innocent Hispanics are the people I'm worried about. The Illegals are just going to avoid entering AZ. I guaruntee that is what's going to happen. So now Spanish Americans will constantly be harrasaed daily for looking a certain way.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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shorebaby ^^^

Your right it does exist on both sides. But we are currently having an immigration debate right now in AZ racially profileing Hispanics. Led by the Republicans.

(add the Siren sound) woooooooooo wooooooooooo wooooooooooo

The Officer --Pull over -

The innocent Hispanic Man--"Yes officer. Why did you pull me over?"

The Officer --"I need to see your Green Card, License, Birth Certificate, Mother Maiden name, Driver's License and a copy of your latest Electric Bill".

The innocent Hispanic Man --"But Officer I was born here, all I have is my Drivers license.!!!!!"

The Officer---" Please step out of your vehicle"

The innocent Hispanic Man ---"Officer I'm Puerto Rican, I'm a US citizen".

The Officer --- " Wait here while I run your profile".

This will probably happen everyday to an unsuspected Hispanic person.

Another reason why this country is divided.
I wasn't aware that anything other than a drivers license was required to prove citizenship. It also my understanding that the request for proof of citizenship cannot be request unless someone is stopped for another violation.


Please provide data to correct me.

Whoops did some more research. It looks like you are wrong. So this should allay any concerns you have.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Byron-York/A-carefully-crafted-immigration-law-in-Arizona-92136104.html (broken link)

"But what if the driver of the car had shown the officer his driver's license? The law clearly says that if someone produces a valid Arizona driver's license, or other state-issued identification, they are presumed to be here legally. There's no reasonable suspicion."[LEFT]
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Desert kid.

Illegal lover no not me.

I just disagree with the new AZ law. Innocent Hispanics are the people I'm worried about. The Illegals are just going to avoid entering AZ. I guaruntee that is what's going to happen. So now Spanish Americans will constantly be harrasaed daily for looking a certain way.

The law is crystal clear on when a person can be questioned. Only if they are detained for another reason. And a drivers license is all that is needed. I don't think any police officer is itching to get sued. I am confident they will be very scrupulous in enforcing this law.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Kinda ironic to talk about unity when your 2 cents are based on petty generalizations.

The whole left vs right thing doesn't mean anything. It's just another bone that the media and/or politicians throw at people so that they will fight over it. I don't think they are malicious about it, like diverting our attention while they do something evil. I don't buy into conspiracies.

But it's simply the media know that noise and screaming sells more than long boging serious discussions and politicians avoid tripping over details and lose people's attention when they boil it down for the lowest common denominator.

There's absoluetely no point in trying to reconcile both sides of these arguments since there is no conversation or debate to begin with. Both sides already made up their minds, have no intention of listening to what others might bring to the table and are really into this kinda of fighting for entertainment purposes. And when they aren't the ones slinging the mud, they listen/read/watch whoever thinks like them do it, but in a much more spectacular manner. With the amount of media around, it's really easy to find someone who thinks exactly like we do so that we can remain comfortable and intellectually dishonest.

In the end, it is your choice to participate to this fighting or not. IMO, it's better to sit it out and watch people rip into each others from the sidelines. You will quickly notice that the people engaged in these false debates are often poor and/or uneducated. So while you are busy fighting over that bone, the people who really know what's going on are laughing at the whole scene in their cocktail parties.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Over There
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BINGO!!!!

Right on both, Cyber Queen.

(See above.)

LOL didn't even take 24 hours.
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