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Old 05-28-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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If, in a moment of clarity or insanity (your choice), the Second Amendment was repealed and personal guns were outlawed, would you accede the loss of the Constitutional right and give up your arms?

I'm envisioning a reasonable disarming process where owners would be compensated for their firearms and ammo with tax credits at fair market value.

Exceptions would be made for antiques, heirlooms and historically important pieces, provided that they are rendered inoperable and made obvious with maybe a non-removable fluorescent orange plug in the barrel.

Maybe firearms could still be available from an armory for short term rental to hunters or to target shooters on the premises of a range.

So, your response would be:

"OK, here are my guns and ammo; now, where's my tax credit?" or "pry from my cold, dead hands?" Or something else?
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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One of the best things about AKs is that you can bury them for years and years and they will function fine the moment you dig them up.

By the way, I have no guns (lost them all in a tragic boating accident)
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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does that include my CANNON too????
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it away.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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If, in a moment of clarity or insanity (your choice), the Second Amendment was repealed and personal guns were outlawed, would you accede the loss of the Constitutional right and give up your arms?

I'm envisioning a reasonable disarming process where owners would be compensated for their firearms and ammo with tax credits at fair market value.

Exceptions would be made for antiques, heirlooms and historically important pieces, provided that they are rendered inoperable and made obvious with maybe a non-removable fluorescent orange plug in the barrel.

Maybe firearms could still be available from an armory for short term rental to hunters or to target shooters on the premises of a range.

So, your response would be:

"OK, here are my guns and ammo; now, where's my tax credit?" or "pry from my cold, dead hands?" Or something else?
"Pry from my cold, dead hands?"
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Maine
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One of the interesting things about the 2nd Amendment, as well as the First Amendment. The wording of it presumes a prior existence of the right. The 2nd Amendment does not create a right to keep and bear arms, it just prohibits congress from infringing on the right.

The reason is because our rights are inherent. We have been so endowed with these inalienable rights by our Creator, not by government. The point of the Bill of Rights was to clearly prohibit congress from infringing upon those rights. But the rights are there, 2nd Amendment or not.

If I had any guns (I too was a victim of a tragic boating accident. Many people can tell of similar circumstances, I'm sure) I would definitely be a part of the "cold, dead hands" crowd. Although if it gets to that point, it is time for a massive uprising.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson

If government is taking guns away from citizens, it is because they're up to no good. If their intentions were truly good and just, they would have nothing to fear of armed citizens.

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Old 05-28-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If, in a moment of clarity or insanity (your choice), the Second Amendment was repealed and personal guns were outlawed, would you accede the loss of the Constitutional right and give up your arms?

I'm envisioning a reasonable disarming process where owners would be compensated for their firearms and ammo with tax credits at fair market value.

Exceptions would be made for antiques, heirlooms and historically important pieces, provided that they are rendered inoperable and made obvious with maybe a non-removable fluorescent orange plug in the barrel.

Maybe firearms could still be available from an armory for short term rental to hunters or to target shooters on the premises of a range.

So, your response would be:

"OK, here are my guns and ammo; now, where's my tax credit?" or "pry from my cold, dead hands?" Or something else?
How long do you think it might be before 3/4 of the state legislatures manage to vote the way you want them to? That will have to happen, you know, to get the necessary amendment. I hope you know what the amending process for our Constitution is.

I don't and never have, owned a firearm but I am very strongly in support of the 2nd Amendment. I know what has happened in countries where what you are really proposing has happened and don't want to see it happen here.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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"pry from my cold, dead hands?"
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: NY
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Do not doubt there would be bloody gun battles. I don't think the military or police would be stupid enough to even try killing citizens who resist something as radical as this. I pray it does not happen but Obama is trying an end run around the Second Amendment by siding with the UN in their wish to remove guns from virtually everyone. Please don't tell me the UN's plan is just to stop terrorists and other criminals from gettin guns. I've worked at the UN for 25 years. I know their agenda.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Do not doubt there would be bloody gun battles. I don't think the military or police would be stupid enough to even try killing citizens who resist something as radical as this. I pray it does not happen but Obama is trying an end run around the Second Amendment by siding with the UN in their wish to remove guns from virtually everyone. Please don't tell me the UN's plan is just to stop terrorists and other criminals from gettin guns. I've worked at the UN for 25 years. I know their agenda.

But that is just what Hillary and Barack are saying about their support of the UN treaty. Yes, we all know what they are after.
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