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Old 05-31-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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This is true to a rightwinger, where things are usually dumbed down to a level of Good versus Bad, Black versus White.

To those with cognitive abilities it is really never this simple. Just like life.
There's a huge difference between being cognitive and lacking the ability to cut through the BS.
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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my liberal friends are anything but pro illegal.....
...and yet I'll bet they oppose enforcing the immigrations laws, and support every conceivable social welfare program give-away for illegals. Like I said, the libs in my state passed legislation to give out home loans, specifically for illegals. And then we end up with the DEA's most wanted list consisting of illegal immigrants.

It's well and good to say "I believe that everyone should obey our immigration laws" but once they break them, libs don't want any further action on the matter. If a poor person is stealing money, I feel sorry for them, but they are breaking the law.

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Old 05-31-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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There's a huge difference between being cognitive and lacking the ability to cut through the BS.
Which is your way of making things simplified.
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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what goes around comes around
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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This is true to a rightwinger, where things are usually dumbed down to a level of Good versus Bad, Black versus White.

To those with cognitive abilities it is really never this simple. Just like life.
Okay oh great wise one!! Now we see. Following the laws is *complicated*. It's just the complexity of the illegals who come here illegally, work here illegally, drive here illegally.

In spite of the USA having far more legal immigration than any other country on earth, it's just too complex for anyone but the pro-open borders crowd to understand. So we must allow in anyone who has no respect for our laws, not just allow them in but reward them with free maternity care, food stamps, WIC, and quick easy citizenship.

If our minds were complex enough, we'd understand that we don't have enough law breakers here already so we must throw open the borders and welcome all law breakers of the world, allow anyone to drive on our streets, no problem if they have no driving skills - they're illegals after all!!! Complex thinking requires they be allowed to come here and drive! Yes, laws are only for the stupid citizens.

It's actually simple. Unlimited illegal immigration generally benefits the elites, only the elites who profit immensely from the low labor costs and have plenty of cheap servants for their two-class society.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Okay oh great wise one!! Now we see. Following the laws is *complicated*. It's just the complexity of the illegals who come here illegally, work here illegally, drive here illegally.

In spite of the USA having far more legal immigration than any other country on earth, it's just too complex for anyone but the pro-open borders crowd to understand. So we must allow in anyone who has no respect for our laws, not just allow them in but reward them with free maternity care, food stamps, WIC, and quick easy citizenship.

If our minds were complex enough, we'd understand that we don't have enough law breakers here already so we must throw open the borders and welcome all law breakers of the world, allow anyone to drive on our streets, no problem if they have no driving skills - they're illegals after all!!! Complex thinking requires they be allowed to come here and drive! Yes, laws are only for the stupid citizens.

It's actually simple. Unlimited illegal immigration generally benefits the elites, only the elites who profit immensely from the low labor costs and have plenty of cheap servants for their two-class society.
Exactly. The illegals come here, suppress wages, and the wealthy business owner reaps the benefits of higher productivity and lower labor costs. You would think the liberals, who are always complaining about the minimum wage, and the gap between rich and poor, would be against this, but no, they are doing everything they can to perpetuate it.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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Which is your way of making things simplified.
Is that a question or a poorly structured statement?
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Okay oh great wise one!! Now we see. Following the laws is *complicated*. It's just the complexity of the illegals who come here illegally, work here illegally, drive here illegally.

In spite of the USA having far more legal immigration than any other country on earth, it's just too complex for anyone but the pro-open borders crowd to understand. So we must allow in anyone who has no respect for our laws, not just allow them in but reward them with free maternity care, food stamps, WIC, and quick easy citizenship.

If our minds were complex enough, we'd understand that we don't have enough law breakers here already so we must throw open the borders and welcome all law breakers of the world, allow anyone to drive on our streets, no problem if they have no driving skills - they're illegals after all!!! Complex thinking requires they be allowed to come here and drive! Yes, laws are only for the stupid citizens.

It's actually simple. Unlimited illegal immigration generally benefits the elites, only the elites who profit immensely from the low labor costs and have plenty of cheap servants for their two-class society.

Right, so those most opposed to illegal immigration end up voting for those most in favor of it. Only they say just the opposite but work towards turning America into a Third World country.

Simple, huh?
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:38 PM
 
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Why is this any different than being rear ended by a uninsured motorist? Also, NOBODY is Pro-Illegal Immirgration just like NOBODY is Pro-Abortion. That's just right-wing jargon.
The unfair part is that someone who is actually a US citizen and is uninsured or unlicensed will be in more trouble then an illegal alien who is unlicensed/uninsured. There is no way to prove who these illegal aliens are (there is no record of them in any database, no social security #'s etc.) So many times, they can get away with giving false names, etc. So every time they are stopped/in an accident they can give a different name and just never show up to court.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:45 PM
 
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Sweet irony, or just karma? A very drunk illegal immigrant "just laughed, slurring that he was going to go back to 'my country' Mexico. 'Nothing is going to happen to me, man,'" after crashing into the car of state Rep. Mike Moran (D) at 60 miles per hour. Massachusetts state policy prohibits police from looking into the guy's immigration status. Gov. Deval Patrick rescinded an order signed by Mitt Romney three years ago that required state police to enforce immigration law and report any illegal aliens to ICE.

FOXNews.com - Car Crash Involving Mass. Lawmaker, Suspected Illegal Immigrant Heats Up Debate

State Rep. in accident with suspected illegal immigrant (http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/politics/local_politics/state-rep-in-accident-with-suspected-illegal-immigrant-20100521 - broken link)
Takes a pretty petty person to relish in someone else's misfortune. "Sweet irony", really? This incident pleases you?

Why don't y'all just form a new Know-Nothings party? Most of them ended up joining the Republican party anyway.

You're 95% of the way there already, so why not?
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