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Old 06-01-2010, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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As the worse environmental disaster in our history unfolds. But there are two stories here, his attitude then and now, which as usual don't jive.

washingtonpost.com

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The relationship between the federal government and the oil company has been an awkward collaboration all along — “We have them by the neck,†Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said of BP in congressional testimony last week — but it reached a turning point Monday when the administration said it no longer wants to share a podium with BP at the daily briefing in Louisiana.

With bad news washing up everywhere, the administration has been desperate to convince the public that the government, and not the oil company, is fully in charge of the crisis and mounting a robust response.
Of course, obama has been saying he has been in charge and on the job since "day one".

And that response has been disgustingly incompetence, especially in allowing the oil to reach the shore - after a month knowing it was on the way.

So, they don't want the imagery of the obama administration as a partner with BP, they only want it to seem they have their "boot on the neck" of BP.

Then:

Obama on BP oil spill: "I'm fully engaged." Press conference transcript - Lynn Sweet

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The American people should know that from the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge of the response effort.

But make no mistake: BP is operating at our direction. Every key decision and action they take must be approved by us in advance.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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The left want so much to be able to say that this is not Obama's Katrina after all the hatred spewed towards George W. Bush. But with every gallon of oil that leaks into the Gulf comes the realization that Barack Obama will have presided over the worst environmental disaster this country has ever experienced. For those who still hold steady in the belief that Obama is on top of things, you should pause for a minute and recall that it wasn't until months AFTER Katrina until GWB was castigated for his response.

In other words: It's coming. The Great One will be castigated with the same fury that GWB endured, and it's eating liberals up from the inside because they thought only GWB could be a colossal screw up.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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And of Obama handled this situation in any other fashion, you would be saying the same thing.

Because it isn't about the facts, it's about you all still crying that he got elected in the first place.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Fort Wayne
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As the worse environmental disaster in our history unfolds. But there are two stories here, his attitude then and now, which as usual don't jive.

washingtonpost.com



Of course, obama has been saying he has been in charge and on the job since "day one".

And that response has been disgustingly incompetence, especially in allowing the oil to reach the shore - after a month knowing it was on the way.

So, they don't want the imagery of the obama administration as a partner with BP, they only want it to seem they have their "boot on the neck" of BP.

Then:

Obama on BP oil spill: "I'm fully engaged." Press conference transcript - Lynn Sweet
When are people going to learn that we ALL (as Americans) are responsible for the spill in the Gulf?
By not pushing energy alternatives and conservation,by not making the government enforce health and safety standards at he workplace and by not realizing that any exercise is fraught w/ uncertainty and danger, we allowed the chain of events leading to this, to have occurred.

Is this oil spill Obama's fault?
Sure is.
And mine.
And yours as well.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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And of Obama handled this situation in any other fashion, you would be saying the same thing.

Because it isn't about the facts, it's about you all still crying that he got elected in the first place.
All i'm seeing are a bunch of lefty forum member's throwing their full support behind the President when the rest of the nation, including the perpetually left-leaning media, are calling the President out for inaction.

While i'm still amazed that so many people could be duped into believing that a Obama had the skills to go with his rhetoric during the 2008 election, i'm even more amazed that in the face of a tepid response to the oil spill you actually still stand firm in your belief. Now that's what I call a hardcore shill.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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All i'm seeing are a bunch of lefty forum member's throwing their full support behind the President when the rest of the nation, including the perpetually left-leaning media, are calling the President out for inaction.

While i'm still amazed that so many people could be duped into believing that a Obama had the skills to go with his rhetoric during the 2008 election, i'm even more amazed that in the face of a tepid response to the oil spill you actually still stand firm in your belief. Now that's what I call a hardcore shill.
And all I see is manufactured outrage from the Right, seizing on any opportunity - no matter how ludicrous - to spew some more propaganda.

Obama has already proven he has the skills, and if he exercised them in a political fashion with which you agreed, you would say so.

My belief is that he's doing no more and no less than any other President would have done: let the experts handle it, and watch them carefully.

This makes me a shill?

It makes you an ideologue, something this country can damn well do without.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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As the worse environmental disaster in our history unfolds. But there are two stories here, his attitude then and now, which as usual don't jive.

washingtonpost.com



Of course, obama has been saying he has been in charge and on the job since "day one".

And that response has been disgustingly incompetence, especially in allowing the oil to reach the shore - after a month knowing it was on the way.

So, they don't want the imagery of the obama administration as a partner with BP, they only want it to seem they have their "boot on the neck" of BP.

Then:

Obama on BP oil spill: "I'm fully engaged." Press conference transcript - Lynn Sweet
I think the Obama plan is genius! He cannot do anything about the leak so it is best for him to hide as much as he can from it- and BP. But then, when they do get it stopped, he will swoop in with thousands of ships, tankers and troops to clean up the mess (the part he can control) and you will see the biggest military and civilian effort since WW 2 down there. He figures they will get it shut off in August worst case and that is when the "Marshall Plan" on the massive clean up will really kick into gear- 12 weeks before Election Day! Believe me, he knows what he is doing- and so do I!
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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When are people going to learn that we ALL (as Americans) are responsible for the spill in the Gulf?
By not pushing energy alternatives and conservation,by not making the government enforce health and safety standards at he workplace and by not realizing that any exercise is fraught w/ uncertainty and danger, we allowed the chain of events leading to this, to have occurred.

Is this oil spill Obama's fault?
Sure is.
And mine.
And yours as well.


CAREFUL! You're well into sensibility here, probably won't be welcomed by the "Obama's WRONG! Now, WHAT were we talking about?" crowd
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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And all I see is manufactured outrage from the Right, seizing on any opportunity - no matter how ludicrous - to spew some more propaganda.

Obama has already proven he has the skills, and if he exercised them in a political fashion with which you agreed, you would say so.

My belief is that he's doing no more and no less than any other President would have done: let the experts handle it, and watch them carefully.

This makes me a shill?

It makes you an ideologue, something this country can damn well do without.
Would those be the same "experts" that GWB relied on in the wake of Katrina, but immensely hated by the liberal left? You mean those experts?

Somehow GWB's "experts" don't live up to the standard of Obama's "experts" huh?

You're stuck in reverse. You don't even see the fallacy of your own argument. But yet you refer to me as an ideologue? LOL
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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you wingnuts realize that only the oil companies (and in this case, especially BP, since they are already at the location) have the required equipment to fix this, right? The solution inevitably must by implemented by them.

I'd also like to point out that if Obama were any more visible through this disaster, all of your daily phony outrage threads would be about how he's using the spill for political gain.
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