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Old 06-02-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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The point is, we are discussing NJ teachers UNIONS and the Governor of NJ.
Keep on topic and not so scatterbrained.
And you're not from NJ.

OK, please expand on why the NJ teacher union frightens and enrages you so thoroughly.


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Does NJ use Texas textbooks?
I'd wager that NJ purchases their own textbooks. Does Texas buy books for some states other than NJ?
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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I live in New Jersey, It's been all over the local news. I've obviously seen it more then you, since I know she said "Im begging you to pay me 83,000." Infact I'm gonna try to lookup her salary now.

NorthJersey.com: Christie defends cutbacks

Regardless, you cant use one teacher as fact. Here's a few links that show the average salary for a NJ teacher. If you use google, you'll find the same info.

Teacher Salaries by State | Employment Spot

Teacher Salaries by State, New Jersey Teacher Salaries - PayScale (http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=High_School_Teacher/Salary/by_State - broken link)
Well, based on this PDF from the Rutherford, New Jersey Board of Education — it looks like Ms. Wilson makes a salary of $86,389.[LEFT]
Read more at the Washington Examiner: NJ Teacher who complained to Gov. Chris Christie she deserved $83k actually makes $86k | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/nj-teacher-who-complained-to-gov-chris-christie-that-she-wasnt-paid-83k-she-deserved-actually-makes-86k-94951164.html#ixzz0piPx7mO4 - broken link)
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Just to set my position upfront: (1) I am a Democrat; (2) I was clothed, fed and educated by the Union (parents were 2 union workers).

In saying that, I am 100% in agreement with Gov. Christie on this issue. The unions are killing themselves with unreasonable demands for increases while the rest of us in the country are being forced to cut-back. In my opinion, if the unions truly cared about their workers, they would cut a good percentage of the cushy office/administrative staff and ensure that the benefits went to the actual workers rather than the people running the unions. If not to the general public, then to their own members, they should give a COMPLETE break-down of all employees in the union, complete with salary, benefits and what their role really is.
Great post!
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Fort Wayne
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Across the country, this is true. This guy is really throwing down the gauntlet and speaking the TRUTH about public schools and the unions that ride roughshod over politicians, parents and students.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Christie: Students Trapped By "Selfish, Greedy" & "Disgraceful" Teacher Unions

In NJ $24,000/pupil?

Incredible.

That $24,000 is needed to pay for the lavish benefits, pensions and health care of the unions.
Ok...does Christie plan on teaching all of these kids himself?
The Teacher's Union isn't going anywhere and picking a fight you can't win is a poor political maneuver.

Wait until re-election and see how Christie either claims that he ha s"won" against the union...or doesn't even bring up this whole episode.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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I live in New Jersey, It's been all over the local news. I've obviously seen it more then you, since I know she said "Im begging you to pay me 83,000." Infact I'm gonna try to lookup her salary now.

NorthJersey.com: Christie defends cutbacks

I'll go back on my own words. She makes 84,000 a year, has 17 years experience, masters degree and is a special ed teacher. Do I find this overpaid to teach kids with learning disablities? Nope. Is the average salary still around 55,000 yes.

NJ Teacher Details
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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Well, based on this PDF from the Rutherford, New Jersey Board of Education — it looks like Ms. Wilson makes a salary of $86,389.[LEFT]
Read more at the Washington Examiner: NJ Teacher who complained to Gov. Chris Christie she deserved $83k actually makes $86k | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/nj-teacher-who-complained-to-gov-chris-christie-that-she-wasnt-paid-83k-she-deserved-actually-makes-86k-94951164.html#ixzz0piPx7mO4 - broken link)
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You beat my too it, and Frankly I have no problem paying people that amount to teach kids since 86k in NJ doesn't go very far.

As I said in earlier posts, the teachers unions screwed them with not taking the pay freeze. They turned into a scapegoat for all of NJs problems.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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You beat my too it, and Frankly I have no problem paying people that amount to teach kids.
overpaid for 8 months work.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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overpaid for 8 months work.

Do you live in NJ? I bet not.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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You beat my too it, and Frankly I have no problem paying people that amount to teach kids since 86k in NJ doesn't go very far.

As I said in earlier posts, the teachers unions screwed them with not taking the pay freeze. They turned into a scapegoat for all of NJs problems.
If taxes werent so high in that state their pay would go a lot further.

I think they make more then a fair wage for getting so many mths off a year
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:14 AM
 
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I know NJ is an expensive state to live in. Lived there for most of my life.

I know it only has gotten worse since I left.

But not for nothing......If you can't live quite comfortably on $86,000.00 a year, then, you're a blithering idiot who's foolishly living above your own means.
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