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Old 06-02-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Are you sure? What is your definition of living comfortably? My definition is debt free which I Am NOT. I make much more than the $86K, have two in college and I can tell you, its NOT easy. There's no such thing as living comfortably, only responsibly unless you have no debts, no dependents and no responsibility.
I would say if you are able to pay your bills and have some left over you are living comfortable.

the size of your debt is up to you
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Ok...does Christie plan on teaching all of these kids himself?
The Teacher's Union isn't going anywhere and picking a fight you can't win is a poor political maneuver.

Wait until re-election and see how Christie either claims that he ha s"won" against the union...or doesn't even bring up this whole episode.
Once they break the unions, non-unions teachers can step in and teach the kids.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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I would say if you are able to pay your bills and have some left over you are living comfortable.

the size of your debt is up to you

And I say, I do not agree. So I guess we can agree to disagree about the amount it takes to live comfortably in NJ.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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I homeschooled for 15 years, so I know that it can be done.

The purpose of the Teacher's Manuel is to keep the course on schedule, gives teaching tips, answers, and other additional information. At the end of my daughter's 7th grade year she took the Stanford Achievement Test and scored in the 11th grade percentile. It can be done.
Homeschooling is NOTHING like teaching in a public school.

A good teacher does not need a Teachers ManuAl...
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Fort Wayne
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Once they break the unions, non-unions teachers can step in and teach the kids.
Hmm...so these "non-union teachers" are going to move to the most expensive state to live in the country for less money than their predecessors and do a better job...why again?

Or the people who aren't now teaching are going to take the new lower-paying positions and this will have NO effect on an already struggling educational system?

OR finally: ALL the teachers nearing or at retirement age,all leave the system at the same time due to the anti-union BS Christie is starting thus making a transition to a non-union system even more difficult than it will be.

There are many more permutations that could occur from this situation.
Most them are probably bleaker than the above.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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Homeschooling is NOTHING like teaching in a public school.

A good teacher does not need a Teachers ManuAl...
You are right. Homeschooling is nothing like teaching in public school. Homeschoolers get to say, "No, do it again. We have plenty of time for you to make an A." Public school is just happy for a C and their tax dollars per student.

And any teacher that utilizes every resource available is a good teacher.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:49 PM
 
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The more I hear Christie talk the more sense he makes. I just hope he has the mettle to stand up to the lefties when they come at him on all fronts which they will. Clinton may even get one of his hit men back in bidness.

I can't believe NJ pays 24K per student. That's insane. My state it's around 12K per and private school around 9K per. Crazy. No wonder folks are running out of NJ. Maybe Christie will too and head to DC.
It's close:

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The highest per student spending in the two counties -- South Hunterdon Regional High School, at $21,789 per student -- was also the highest in the state in its category covering 47 districts that offer either grades 7 to 12 or grades 9 to 12.
Keeping in mind the "in its category" statement.

Spending per student on rise in Warren, Hunterdon high schools, N.J. Department of Education says - lehighvalleylive.com
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:52 PM
 
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Of course!

The problem with schools is teachers!

It's all so easy to see!
Actually it's the Teachers Union!
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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I'll go back on my own words. She makes 84,000 a year, has 17 years experience, masters degree and is a special ed teacher. Do I find this overpaid to teach kids with learning disablities? Nope. Is the average salary still around 55,000 yes.

NJ Teacher Details
That link came up for a school nurse?
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:10 PM
 
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In my NJ county, a grammar school teacher with 20 years and masters makes $110k and has great benefits for life. Also, there are many, many, many teachers that have political favor jobs. They're administrators doing clerical work because they campaigne for their local machine. Work that should be done by non-union workers for 30k. For this, our taxes are sky high and seniors are losing their homes.

I heard some crazy stats the other day. The average NJ teacher retires at age 49, goes on to receive $3M in pensions and half a million in health benefits.

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