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Old 07-23-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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Gallup.Com - Daily News, Polls, Public Opinion on Government, Politics, Economics, Management

Back to 44% Approval, 48% Disapproval.

Dang, I'd sure like to see the partisan Id that Gallup is using. They just refuse to let him go under 44%.

Gosh, look at the first 5 polls.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

Gallup is polling inmates!!! Heck over 300 of them were allowed to vote Al Franken in.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Prez Obama doing an excellent job.

Republicans are still Bush Republicans and they must struggle with their inferior ideology, **** poor record, and inability to improve themselves. President Obama easily here for two terms.

If the Republicans don't distance themselves from what Bush represents and convince the nation that they are not the Klanlike party, they may not have a shot at the White House until 2024.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Republicans are still Bush Republicans and they must struggle with their inferior ideology, **** poor record, and inability to improve themselves. President Obama easily here for two terms.

If the Republicans don't distance themselves from what Bush represents and convince the nation that they are not the Klanlike party, they may not have a shot at the White House until 2024.
Funny I recall quite a few R's not approving of the Bush policies back when. Funnier still is why Obama keeps on spending like Bush and ignoring the cries for help on our borders, just like Bush. Why we may be flicking the nose of N. Korea with our war games and perhaps end up in another war, just like Bush.
You try to paint a KKK face on all conservatives but I suggest your party is the one wearing the sheet now.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: North America
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From this link:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt (broken link)

I misspoke, it was in the 9's.

Actually, it wasn't in the 7 percentile till 1984.

It was in the 9 percentile in 1982 and 1983.

9.7 in 1982, and 9.6 in 1983

Up from 7.1 in 1980 and 7.6 in 1981.

There was a recession, and guess what, people lost their jobs, just like now.

Huge surprise.

Here is a history of President Reagan's job approval ratings from Gallup:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/11887/ron...ll-review.aspx

He averaged 53%. His lowest rating was in the mid-30's in 1983 because of--what????--a recession!!!! Which resulted in....say it with me...high unemployment!

Holy cow! What a freaking concept! recession causes unemployment...who knew!

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Old 07-26-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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From this link:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt (broken link)

I misspoke, it was in the 9's.

Actually, it wasn't in the 7 percentile till 1984.

It was in the 9 percentile in 1982 and 1983.

9.7 in 1982, and 9.6 in 1983

Up from 7.1 in 1980 and 7.6 in 1981.

There was a recession, and guess what, people lost their jobs, just like now.

Huge surprise.

Here is a history of President Reagan's job approval ratings from Gallup:

Ronald Reagan From the People

He averaged 53%. His lowest rating was in the mid-30's in 1983 because of--what????--a recession!!!! Which resulted in....say it with me...high unemployment!

Holy cow! What a freaking concept! recession causes unemployment...who knew!

Yup and those unemployment rate numbers of Reagans that you are showing are the YEARLY AVERAGES. On a month by month basis - the way the numbers are actually released - it looks EVEN WORSE. In THIS recession, the highest the U-3 (official) unemployment rate got to was 10.1% back in September of last year. It's now dropped to 9.5%. During the Reagan years you are speaking of, that same U-3 (official) unemployment rate peaked at 10.8% in the last 2 months of 1982 before finally starting to drop back down. In fact, under Reagan, the unemployment rate REMAINED at or above the highest level Obama has seen (10.1% for a single month) for 10 MONTHS. Let me repeat that - under Reagan, we had an official (U-3) unemployment rate that for 10 FULL MONTHS was as high or higher than Obama's single highest month. SEVEN of those months were HIGHER than anything we've seen under Obama. Like today, counting those folks who are no longer on the unemployment rolls was at best a guess - and back then the government didn't even try (thus there was no U-6 unemployment rate figure) but there is no reason to believe that that "real" unemployment rate was not well over 20% at it's peak.

Note that it HAD been 7.5% when Reagan took office in January of 1981 - very close to what Obama inherited from Bush. Undre Reagan, it hovered around that point for half a year or so - dropping first to 7.2% then back up to 7.5% then dropping back down to 7.2% until the Reagan tax cuts were put into effect in july of 1981 - after which point unemployment skyrocketed for the next 16 months to that 10.8% high it held in Nov & Dec of 1981. After that, the unemployment rate - though slowly falling - remained ABOVE that 7.5% it was at when Reagan took office until May of 1984 - a full 32 months (nearly 3 YEARS!) at that elevated rate. That is why Reagan's Presidential Approval Ratings were so very low - far lower than anything Obama has experienced - and yet Reagan STILL managed to win re-election because by the time the election rolled around, unemployment had FINALLY dropped to acceptable levels.

The United States Unemployment Rate (http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp - broken link)

Ken

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Old 07-26-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: nj
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After an oil induced slip last week, Obama's approval rating has risen back to it's normal 50%. It seems that the lines have been drawn. Those who approve, will always approve and those who don't, will never approve.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
This link doesn't say 50%
Cut and paste what you see , please.
Hmmm ?
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Republicans are still Bush Republicans and they must struggle with their inferior ideology, **** poor record, and inability to improve themselves. President Obama easily here for two terms.

If the Republicans don't distance themselves from what Bush represents and convince the nation that they are not the Klanlike party, they may not have a shot at the White House until 2024.
what ya smokin?
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:03 PM
 
Location: nj
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Republicans are still Bush Republicans and they must struggle with their inferior ideology, **** poor record, and inability to improve themselves. President Obama easily here for two terms.

If the Republicans don't distance themselves from what Bush represents and convince the nation that they are not the Klanlike party, they may not have a shot at the White House until 2024.
Shoot yall Alexus drank all the kool aid!
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Originally Posted by carterstamp View Post
From this link:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt (broken link)

I misspoke, it was in the 9's.

Actually, it wasn't in the 7 percentile till 1984.

It was in the 9 percentile in 1982 and 1983.

9.7 in 1982, and 9.6 in 1983

Up from 7.1 in 1980 and 7.6 in 1981.

There was a recession, and guess what, people lost their jobs, just like now.

Huge surprise.

Here is a history of President Reagan's job approval ratings from Gallup:

Ronald Reagan From the People

He averaged 53%. His lowest rating was in the mid-30's in 1983 because of--what????--a recession!!!! Which resulted in....say it with me...high unemployment!

Holy cow! What a freaking concept! recession causes unemployment...who knew!
You said Reagan won in a landslide with UE @ 10%, which was incorrect. Fall of 1984, it was 7.2 %.

The difference in Reagan's recession and obama's is job growth took off for Reagan, whereas obama's policies are stifling job growth.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Yup and those unemployment rate numbers of Reagans that you are showing are the YEARLY AVERAGES. On a month by month basis - the way the numbers are actually released - it looks EVEN WORSE. In THIS recession, the highest the U-3 (official) unemployment rate got to was 10.1% back in September of last year. It's now dropped to 9.5%. During the Reagan years you are speaking of, that same U-3 (official) unemployment rate peaked at 10.8% in the last 2 months of 1982 before finally starting to drop back down. In fact, under Reagan, the unemployment rate REMAINED at or above the highest level Obama has seen (10.1% for a single month) for 10 MONTHS. Let me repeat that - under Reagan, we had an official (U-3) unemployment rate that for 10 FULL MONTHS was as high or higher than Obama's single highest month. SEVEN of those months were HIGHER than anything we've seen under Obama. Like today, counting those folks who are no longer on the unemployment rolls was at best a guess - and back then the government didn't even try (thus there was no U-6 unemployment rate figure) but there is no reason to believe that that "real" unemployment rate was not well over 20% at it's peak.

Note that it HAD been 7.5% when Reagan took office in January of 1981 - very close to what Obama inherited from Bush. Undre Reagan, it hovered around that point for half a year or so - dropping first to 7.2% then back up to 7.5% then dropping back down to 7.2% until the Reagan tax cuts were put into effect in july of 1981 - after which point unemployment skyrocketed for the next 16 months to that 10.8% high it held in Nov & Dec of 1981. After that, the unemployment rate - though slowly falling - remained ABOVE that 7.5% it was at when Reagan took office until May of 1984 - a full 32 months (nearly 3 YEARS!) at that elevated rate. That is why Reagan's Presidential Approval Ratings were so very low - far lower than anything Obama has experienced - and yet Reagan STILL managed to win re-election because by the time the election rolled around, unemployment had FINALLY dropped to acceptable levels.

The United States Unemployment Rate (http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp - broken link)

Ken
Well now that's some interesting stuff there Ken!

Taxes were cut under Reagan and unemployment got worse? Huh?

Fast forward to Bush who cuts taxes and loses millions of jobs. Huh?

Fast forward to last year: government injects money into the system and unemployment drops?

Huh.
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