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Old 06-02-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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How would you turn this city around if you were the mayor of East St. Louis?



YouTube - Black Unemployment in East St. Louis Highlights Disparities
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:49 AM
 
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Move. Seriously. Don't even try to change it. You read about ghost towns in the upper midwest that can't keep people and are going back to wild prairie.
No jobs, no reason to stay. Move. People left their farms during the Dust Bowl.
Outsourcing jobs overseas, NAFTA, Chinese most favored trade status, illegal immigration, this is the result.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:27 AM
 
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east St. Louis(illinois) is a dump. some of the highest crime in the country. I dont even like driving through there.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:55 AM
 
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How would you turn this city around if you were the mayor of East St. Louis?



YouTube - Black Unemployment in East St. Louis Highlights Disparities

It cannot be saved.

1. No buisness will go there due to crime, poor work force, and high buisness legal exposure in Illinois

2. the population is uneducated and has a poor work ethic, therefore they are not able to create buisness nor attract buisness

3. the culture of crime and lack of education is ingrained in the population


What could be done?

1. Create a "tax free zone" for buisnesses or corporation who would be exempt from property tax and breaks on federal corporate tax. Essentially make a buisness "tax free".

2. Allow free land for buisnesses willing to locate in the area

3. establish a curfew

4. Allow the DEA to actually convict drug dealers there. A DEA agent was in our office a few years ago and said that they do not even bother making arrests in that area (unless the dollar amount is several million dollars) as the judges are on the take. Enforcement is impossible there and it is essentially lawless. Does that remind anyone of an administration transplanted from Chicago?

5. Create a "class action free zone" in which class action corporate suits cannot be filed against businesses in this zone. This part of Illinois has been rife with class action suits, which has killed buisness (The torts of Madison County).

6. Close the public schools and contract with the parochial school system to take over education

7. Limit work comp settlements in this zone, allowing buisness to avoid the work comp environment of Illinois
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:09 AM
 
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Actually East St Louis is in a LOT better shape than it used to be. You can thank the hated liberals for that, as for so many other wonderful turns of events.

Jonathan Kozol's chapter on ESL in his book Savage Inequalities (1991) opened my eyes about the horror of life there.
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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Actually East St Louis is in a LOT better shape than it used to be. You can thank the hated liberals for that, as for so many other wonderful turns of events.
What did liberals do to improve things there?
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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What could be done?

1. Create a "tax free zone" for buisnesses or corporation who would be exempt from property tax and breaks on federal corporate tax. Essentially make a buisness "tax free".

2. Allow free land for buisnesses willing to locate in the area

3. establish a curfew

4. Allow the DEA to actually convict drug dealers there. A DEA agent was in our office a few years ago and said that they do not even bother making arrests in that area (unless the dollar amount is several million dollars) as the judges are on the take. Enforcement is impossible there and it is essentially lawless. Does that remind anyone of an administration transplanted from Chicago?

5. Create a "class action free zone" in which class action corporate suits cannot be filed against businesses in this zone. This part of Illinois has been rife with class action suits, which has killed buisness (The torts of Madison County).

6. Close the public schools and contract with the parochial school system to take over education

7. Limit work comp settlements in this zone, allowing buisness to avoid the work comp environment of Illinois
Where has this been done or something close to it and what were the results?
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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What did liberals do to improve things there?
For example (this was just so impossible to find)

Environmental Justice Case Study: East St Louis
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:11 AM
 
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For more ESL economic history besides the Jonathan Kosol chapter above, see also

Made in USA: East St. Louis, the rise and fall of an industrial river town, by Andrew J. Theising, 2003
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:12 AM
 
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This is actually a great opportunity to show the difference btw right and left (or as I call it bad and good ). Do you honestly think "conservatives" would clean up a place like ESL?
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