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Old 06-04-2010, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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And why is it again that you always feign indignation (at least a tny bit anyway) when you're called an anti-Semite?
Because I've never said anything bad about Jews or that Jews shouldn't do X, Y, or Z. Since the comment is a relatively stupid and sophomoric one, I'll combat it as I wish.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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For all you "Israel can do no wrong" Israeli apologists, perhaps you can explain to me how shooting someone in the head 4 times at close range is self defense..

Global Voices in English » USA: Mourning the Loss of American Furkan Dogan, Killed on Flotilla
Well, these people were planning on getting killed, so who cares. They knew what they were doing and knew what could happen to them, so who the heck cares if he or anyone on the ship died.
I'm sorry, but if you are a suicide bomber and someone shoots you before you can push the button, why should we care? You were going to kill yourself anyways, so why do you even care???
Israel can and does do wrong. But how are they worse than the Arabs? Or us for that matter? Stop with this holier than thou attitude already and let Israel deal with their own enemies, the way they see fit.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:35 PM
 
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Zionism started in North America and Europe long before Hitler gained power. In fact, well before he became a war hero during the WWI. But it was after WWI that the push for a Jewish nation started, and Palestine was targeted (see the British Mandate for Palestine, and the Balfour Agreement).

But, technically, the passion for Israel is as old as the Biblical stories can take you. Why do you think Moses was murdering Canaanites and others? Religious zealots have taken things from there and still trumpet that old path, for "God's chosen people".
Ok let me put it this way, Hitler's actions in ww2 generated world wide sympathy that tipped the scales leading to the reformation of Israel. Better?
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:38 PM
 
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A soldier shoots to kill not maim or wound. A head shot guarantees this. The same applies with any police force in the States.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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I don't like the Democratic party's stance on Israel anymore than the Republican one..

Israel should have been cut loose long ago. They're nothing but trouble, and don't deserve a penny of our money
The more Americans realize this, the better. They drag us down.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You would normally think American's would rally around their own being murdered by Israeli security forces?

In addition, to what you mentioned we had the girl run over by a bulldozer and the girl last week who lost her eye due to a tear gas cannister being shot at her head.
The tear gas canister was not shot AT her head, it just happened to hit her. If you are going to engage the Israel military, you best be prepared for the consequences. Same with the dumb bunny that tried to tackle a bulldozer. They gave her plenty of warning to get out.

It should be clear by now that Israel WILL do what is necessary to protect herself.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:20 PM
 
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The tear gas canister was not shot AT her head, it just happened to hit her. If you are going to engage the Israel military, you best be prepared for the consequences. Same with the dumb bunny that tried to tackle a bulldozer. They gave her plenty of warning to get out.

It should be clear by now that Israel WILL do what is necessary to protect herself.
As opposed to what they did in the past, such as sending America's latest antitank technology to Iran at the behest of traitors Oliver North and John Poindexter? And now they complain of a threat from Iran?

And if you are going to engage the Israel(sic) military, your best be prepared to face weapons and equipment made in America.

And it should be clear by now that trusting Israel is like handling a viper, likely to strike whoever is around.

We are fools to believe that Israel is our friend.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They are indeed our friend, or they were before the radical who sits in the oval office came to power.

There is no clearer example of his BS on the campaign trail to his actions in office. He pretended to be a friend to Israel, but since he ascended, he has been anything but.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:31 PM
 
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They are indeed our friend.
No, they spy on us--fact. They have killed our sailers and never taken responsibility--fact. They shipped our missile technology to Iran--fact.

They are indeed not our friend.
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