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Old 06-11-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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If the central tenant of conservatism is the belief that the government should remain as small and as unobtrusive as possible why in the case of abortion do right wingers want the state to intervene?
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:16 PM
 
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Conservatives love big government, the bigger the better, they just want the government to get bigger in places they like. They want big government in people's bedrooms, they want big government legislating what can and cannot be on TV, they want to legislate religion, they want big government between you and your doctor (no abortion even if the woman's life is in danger), they want ever more spending on the military even though we already spend more then the next 50 largest military budgets on the planet. Anyone who doesn't realize conservatives love big government is in denial.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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If the central tenant of conservatism is the belief that the government should remain as small and as unobtrusive as possible why in the case of abortion do right wingers want the state to intervene?


Because aside from their typical hypocrisy, the abortion issue is a ca$h cow for the GOP
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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many also want no abortion but don't want to be taxed to help care for children of poor women who don't abort.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:51 PM
 
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If the central tenant of conservatism is the belief that the government should remain as small and as unobtrusive as possible why in the case of abortion do right wingers want the state to intervene?
That's the reason why Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford supported abortion rights, because they believed that the government should get off the backs of women. Ronald Reagan as Governor of California supported abortion rights, although after Roe v. Wade he became a pro-lifer.

I know some pro-life conservatives who said they'd be perfectly happy if rather than abortion being banned, Roe would be overturned and so states could choose whether to legalize abortion or not (which was the situation with abortion not only in the late 1960s and 1970s, but also the situation when the Fourteenth Amendment was passed. The reason why abortion was banned in every US state by the 1880s was not because of the sanctity of life but because so many women were dying from infections - medical instruments in the 19th century were not sterile).
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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If the central tenant of conservatism is the belief that the government should remain as small and as unobtrusive as possible why in the case of abortion do right wingers want the state to intervene?
Easy.. because we look at abortion as murder... We don't look at it as a womans choice for her body, we look at it as a woman choosing to murder an innocent life....
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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It takes one heck of alot more governmment resurces to protect a womans so called right to murder a baby than

not

Why twist everything out of context and lie
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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Easy.. because we look at abortion as murder... We don't look at it as a womans choice for her body, we look at it as a woman choosing to murder an innocent life....

so many conservatives are alright with the death penalty...guess that is alright because the criminal is not innocent...except in the case where they really were
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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Easy.. because we look at abortion as murder... We don't look at it as a womans choice for her body, we look at it as a woman choosing to murder an innocent life....
The Libertarian Murray Rothbard viewed abortion as being no different than excising a tumor from one's body and a fetus as being a parasite on the mother who had no more "right to life" than a person who decided to live inside of another's body and sponge off it:

Ludwig von Mises Institute

Admittedly, this view is rather extreme....
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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I agree, abortion is a death sentence


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so many conservatives are alright with the death penalty...guess that is alright because the criminal is not innocent...except in the case where they really were
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