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Yes, you should sell the expensive,luxury, car if you need the government to feed your family.
It isn't based on need necessarily. It is just based on the numbers. I can pay my bills, even on unemployment. I qualify for FS, but I don't need them. So, why do I qualify for them? It is based on the average numbers. On second thought about the car, I could get a really good average car and have a lot of money left by selling the lexus.
Also, it isn't the gov't paying for anything. The gov't doesn't have any money, if you know what I mean. Also, "expensive" is relative.
Agreed that they are not "abusing the system" - it's the system that needs to be changed. They are however abusing the spirit of what foodstamps are designed for.
If they want a cake what's wrong with buying flour, sugar & eggs and BAKING one? No-one has to buy a premade cake on foodstamps.
When someone else is footing YOUR foodbill then yes, it behoves you to spend it WISELY.
When you work and provide your OWN $$ then you may spend it as stupidly and wantonly as you wish.
Are you lumping all government employees or just state, federal or local employees? I guess that you will remember that when your house catches on fire or you get mugged in the street. If you are referencing caseworkers (state employees) I know that the ones that work in Pa are underpaid for what they have to put up with especially when the economy is bad. As a caseworker for three years I know this first hand with a caseload of 550 people. there are some folks with alot more and some with a few less but 450 was pretty much the average.
If those things happen, it's up to ME to take care of it. I don't go running off to someone else to fix it for me.
If I give a homeless guy five bucks, I can't tell him he can't spend it on beer or cigarettes. He didn't "earn" it maybe, but once it left my hand, and he had possession of it, the right to decide how to spend it falls on him.
If those things happen, it's up to ME to take care of it. I don't go running off to someone else to fix it for me.
If I give a homeless guy five bucks, I can't tell him he can't spend it on beer or cigarettes. He didn't "earn" it maybe, but once it left my hand, and he had possession of it, the right to decide how to spend it falls on him.
apples to oranges
That homeless guy didn't have to fill out an application to get your money
I only know one person on food stamps and he doesn't fit the profiles everyone in here is talking about. He's 60 and has Parkinsons and is unable to work. I really don't care what he buys and I'm not jealous of him. OMG he's WHITE too!
You are assuming that these people are on FS for a long time, and I must admit MANY of them are. But, here is a question. Say things are going well and I have a lexus that I paid cash for - I know most people don't pay cash for things like this, even if they have the cash. Well, I DO, but I don't use credit. My mortgage is an exception. If I hit a down-hill financial slide that I say will last only 8 months or so and say I don't have savings. Should I sell the car I no longer have payments on for just an 8-month financial hyatus(sp)? I know this scenario sounds rediculous, you get the idea.
Charles
cps- First, I think it's awesome that you don't use credit. I think in this case, drive the Lexus baby! But the problem I would have if is someone is on public assistance, and buys an luxury car while taking tax payers money. I don't know if it's reasonable for something like to happen, but who knows.
Besides, seeing someone get behind the wheel of a luxury car right after using food stamps could also mean they don't have a car, and a very generous friend or family member let them borrow one. I guess we shouldn't make assumptions.
That homeless guy didn't have to fill out an application to get your money
I don't care if he did or not, it's the same difference. Whether it's been "earned" or not, once someone has the money, they can choose to spend it however they wish. The freedom to make bad choices must be retained, or it isn't freedom.
I still have not seen a post that supports the point that "liberals" think all welfare recipients should be given a Porsche or a Lambourghini (sp?).
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Originally Posted by marmac
Yes, you should sell the expensive,luxury, car if you need the government to feed your family.
Selling the car (a Lexus, I believe) is not always a good financial decision. If you need a car to say, job hunt, selling one that is paid for to buy another one doesn't make much sense.
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Originally Posted by marmac
If old folks own a house free and clear but need and can't afford assisted living facilities, welfare/govt will provide, but will put a lien on her house.
Why is your scenario special ?
The govt. (Medicaid in this case) does not pay for assisted living. It will pay for nursing home care, but only after most of your assets have been spent, and they do put a lien on your house, assuming you own one.
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Originally Posted by marmac
We had a former Minneapolis Police Chief who entered politics ( Tony Bouza) .
Regarding welfare prograns...........
He stated Republicans had accountability but no compassion.
He stated Democrats had compassion but no accountability.
He stated he was for compassion with accountability.
If those things happen, it's up to ME to take care of it. I don't go running off to someone else to fix it for me.
If I give a homeless guy five bucks, I can't tell him he can't spend it on beer or cigarettes. He didn't "earn" it maybe, but once it left my hand, and he had possession of it, the right to decide how to spend it falls on him.
Actually, that scenario is more like this:
Homeless guy gets $5 but cannot buy booze or lottery.
Homeless guy takes $5 and buys booze and lottery.
Next time homeless guy needs money, you don't give it to him.
You have every right to say what the money your giving is going to go towards Otherwise, why aren't we just giving out cash?
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