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Oh please.... Jesse Jackson is the one that pushed the term... if you don't know this, you don't know much about the term.
Actually, I was using that term a decade earlier than you ascribed it to Jesse Jackson. And there are others who were using it long before I did. Actually, I know a helluva lot about that term, which I think is obvious from reading my posts.
the reason it doesnt make sense is because you can't even follow the threads you are responding to. I asked a person who the supposed leaders of Black Americans were..... you responded with the POTUS.
I said that the POTUS is not a leader for exclusively black people...
You responded that yes he was because we live here....
you are wrong, since I am saying that me and my family wants to be known as Americans.. plain and simple....
If someone wants to describe us as in race... would prefer the term black over African American as a description.
And as Americans "plain and simple" the leader of Americans (WHITE AND BLACK) is the POTUS. I know you are trying to make me look like I don't know what I am talking about but eventually you are just going to make yourself look like an idiot because no one else here seems to be confused about what I am saying but you.
Now that you came forward and admitted that "[i] would prefer the term black over African American as a description" I ask you to stop dodging my question(s) in post 137 about being called by the actual color of the skin. What is your response to that question?
But why is it used as a racial/ethnic classification here, and not allowed to be used as also a country of origin.. because people like you say, that it has to be this way, whether others like it or not?
Just like Asian-American is used as a racial/ethnic classification too. How come I don't see no one arguing about that? Why do black people get so much attention around here anyway? There are probably some Chinese people who families been here since the 1870s still identifiying as Asian-Americans. Where is the outcry? Technically speaking, Americans of Middle Eastern descent(including many Arabs and some Jews) are Asian-Americans too, yet the term is limited to people of East, Southeast, and South Asia origins on the census. Even in everyday discussions, Indians, Pakastanis, Tamils, Sri Lankans etc are typically not called Asians. The primarily image of what an Asian person looks like in America is someone with "Mongoloid" features.
Actually, I was using that term a decade earlier than you ascribed it to Jesse Jackson. And there are others who were using it long before I did. Actually, I know a helluva lot about that term, which I think is obvious from reading my posts.
I think you know what you want to believe, and you ascribe to because it is your belief. But the term becoming nationalized was due to it being pushed by jackson...
I do not agree with your beliefs of what african american means, and we have been back and forth on that months and months ago.
Just like Asian-American is used as a racial/ethnic classification too. How come I don't see no one arguing about that? Why do black people get so much attention around here anyway? There are probably some Chinese people who families been here since the 1870s still identifiying as Asian-Americans. Where is the outcry? Technically speaking, Americans of Middle Eastern descent(including many Arabs and some Jews) are Asian-Americans too, yet the term is limited to people of East, Southeast, and South Asia origins on the census. Even in everyday disscussions, Indians, Pakastanis, Tamils, Sri Lankans etc are typically not called Asians. The primarily image of what an Asian person looks like in America is someone with "Mongoloid" features.
I can not speak for why there isnt an outcry from those of asian decent... but, I think it is just as wrong as African American
I think you know what you want to believe, and you ascribe to because it is your belief. But the term becoming nationalized was due to it being pushed by jackson...
I do not agree with your beliefs of what african american means, and we have been back and forth on that months and months ago.
I do not dispute most of what you say here; We do not see eye to eye on the definition of African American, and I will believe what I want to believe, and you will believe what you want to believe.
But I do dispute this central fact; Jesse Jackson is not the man responsible for the introduction or the popularization of the term African American.
And as Americans "plain and simple" the leader of Americans (WHITE AND BLACK) is the POTUS. I know you are trying to make me look like I don't know what I am talking about but eventually you are just going to make yourself look like an idiot because no one else here seems to be confused about what I am saying but you.
Now that you came forward and admitted that "[i] would prefer the term black over African American as a description" I ask you to stop dodging my question(s) in post 137 about being called by the actual color of the skin. What is your response to that question?
No I am not trying to make you look like anything. you are trying to take my responses to someone else, and make them seem as if I am implying something completely different.
well if someone is going to describe someone else, than yes, they should be as descriptive as possible... if you have a dark tan, than if someone is describing you, I am sure that is a factor to be mentioned.
I can not speak for why there isnt an outcry from those of asian decent... but, I think it is just as wrong as African American
Probably because there is such thing as a Chinese American, a Japanese American, a Korean American, an Indian American or a Vietnamese American, etc......but that is vastly different from the notion of what an African American is.
Americans of Asian descent know where in Asia their ancestors came from; they have some inkling, through their surname, their religion, their food or their language, what culture they originated from. They know that Asian American is a relatively insignificant term because they are aware of their own national and ethnic origins. African Americans have no such luxury.
I do not dispute most of what you say here; We do not see eye to eye on the definition of African American, and I will believe what I want to believe, and you will believe what you want to believe.
But I do dispute this central fact; Jesse Jackson is not the man responsible for the introduction or the popularization of the term African American.
I will agree that jesse, did not introduce the term, but he was the one that was pushing the movement. yes it was widely used by some in certain circles, yes it was already being used in books, in black ran media etc....
But the one that publically pushed for the term on a national level to all was jesse jackson... maybe that you can at least agree to.
It was not until after Mr. Jackson began this supposed movement that the term started to become main stream America.. not limited to certain blacks.
No I am not trying to make you look like anything. you are trying to take my responses to someone else, and make them seem as if I am implying something completely different.
well if someone is going to describe someone else, than yes, they should be as descriptive as possible... if you have a dark tan, than if someone is describing you, I am sure that is a factor to be mentioned.
Ok good to know. Well now I am frankly surprised that you believe it is less offensive to be called dark tan or light brown if the person is "black" than being called African American...for whatever reason I am not going to test this theory out by calling "black" people who aren't truly black, brown or dark tan, I don't have a feeling that would go over so well. So i'll stick with African American because it is more consistent more often than calling every person who has slightly darker skin black.
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