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Old 04-12-2007, 05:10 PM
 
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Here is a question that may some PSL residents could help me with. I'm at my wits end trying to get the answer. We're relocating from Maine to PSL as my husband is retiring from the Navy and just accepted a job down there. Anyway, we have a 5 year old who attends a public kindergarten here. Well when I called down to the school board to see what documentation they needed from the school as proof of enrollment (if we were living in FL she wouldn't start Kindergarten until 07-08 school year). The lady at the school board try to tell me that b/c she is in a half day program she HAS to do Kindergarten again. To me it sounds like a bunch of Hoo Ha! So basically I'm trying to find the written policy on this. Looking at the Sunshine State Standards for Kindergarten and 1st grade she's done in Kindergarten this year what FL teaches the 1st half of 1st grade.

Any help of where to look would be great! I haven't decided if I'm going to fight it yet, I'm just by the rules type of person, and I believe this woman was trying to feed me a line.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:20 PM
 
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Nothing would surprise me in Fla. but I'm guessing it has to do with the hours required by the state (Maines requirements may be less than required by the state of Fla. for advancement.)I'm interested to hear what others have to say on this.Definately follow through on this.We moved here when my son was in kindergarten.His teacher recommended speech therapy because he couldn't pronounce his R's.We're from Boston.Ah-Yuh!
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:47 PM
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It sounds like it is the concern of hours if your child was in a half-day program. However, ask about the option to "Test-Out" of K so your child can go to 1st. Get the scope/sequence from the school board website to mke sure your child knows what the K's in Fla are supposed to know. You shouldn't have any problems.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:57 AM
 
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I am a new "member" of this forum, and your posting made me feel so much better. I will be moving to tradition in July from NY (Long Island) and I wasn't impressed with the scores of the high schools. I have 3 children, the oldest going into 11th grade. He is in all AP courses (high honors). After reading your message, I feel a little better. Thanks
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:34 PM
 
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Julz-I can't believe your son's teacher recommended speech therapy Wow-get a clue lady.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:47 AM
 
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Thought I'd chime in with my two cents:
We just left Vero Beach for PA, relocation of my husband's job...I do miss FL but since the kids are school-age I looked forward to the supposedly "higher ranking" schools in the northeast. One point I'd like to make (and I spent time growing up in both Queens and LI, so I know where you're coming from) is that the people in FL are soooo much nicer and friendlier than up here. I can't stand the snobby and unwelcoming attitude that I am finding- plus the attitude of the schools, who say "well, since you are from FL, the expectations here are much higher, the children more intelligent, blah blah blah..." I would take a warm and nurturing atmosphere for my kids over "blue ribbon schools" anyday. My kid feels put out by these people..it's sad. Overall, the FL schools do rank lower. BUT the magnet schools rank just as high as the schools up here. Port St Lucie...I don't have experience firsthand, but two family members work in the schools there- one is a teacher, the other in admin. and it is all up to you, and the teacher makes a huge difference..but it's what you make of it. Our neighborhood school in Vero ranked a 5 out of 10 on Greatschools.com, but people thinks it's a great school...ranks an "A" according to FL! It's what you make of it. As far as the zones in PSL, I do think you get to choose your first, second, third etc. choices...yes, go to the school board. I know people who moved to Tradition- you will probably love it. I know IRC and Martin County do have a better reputation, but PSL has soooo many kids, there's got to be SOME reason people move there with families...and my family that lives there love it...Good luck.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:50 AM
 
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Coming from Vero, I have to say that not all of Vero is snobby- beachside, yes, but mainland, No...I loved it there and it's a huge mix of all socio-economic levels on the mainland...at least in my experience.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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I think that the "foreign born" comment was very ignorant and ill stated. If you want to go there, the ONLY children that are foreign born that may not get into honors and other advanced level classes are those that don't have English as their first language-usually spanish speakers- because Jamaicans, Africans, Chinese, and even the majority of Haitians tend to come to America far more advanced than our children here. Like you I agree that has nothing to do with schooling (for the most part); I guess they just have AMBITION! Because their parents instill it in them from babies. My husband is of Jamaican decent and I have several friends that are as well and they all come here (if they've attended primary-or what we would call Elementary school in Jamaica) and they are so advanced that they are quite frankly bored so research your facts; if you notice, the absolute majority of the most successful doctors, lawyers, surgeons, and nurses, are either Jamaican, African, Chinese, or Haitian so please- let's not go there- your children would be lucky to be in classes with "foreign born" children-maybe AMBITION will rub off on them and maybe-just maybe- someone else can turn out as successful as you have Ms. Almost Law Graduate. God bless everyone, mam I think that you should pray that God will order your steps and keep your children wherever they attend school as in this day and age; where we get an education is really the absolute least of our troubles; we need to be trying to ensure that our spiritual walk with Christ is in order so that we can make it in to the kingdom of God; my prayers are with you and I hope that you find peace in EVERY situation. God bless you.
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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I think that the "foreign born" comment was very ignorant and ill stated.
I think you are addressing your comment to me, and the post I made two years ago.

To be honest, it may be ill stated, but it's probably not off base. I was originally trying to be nice without actually saying, "poor migrant and immigrant children from Mexico and Haiti who don't have English as a first language." But there, I said it.

But I digress. The sad fact is that in most American schools, the lower socioeconomic immigrant groups do not majority place into advanced placement and honors classes.

When I went to school at Fort Pierce Central, the only time I ever had a foreign born Haitian or Mexican in ANY of my classes was gym or "health" class. Jamaicans, etc. do not fit into that analysis, though, as there should be no language gap. There is also an "achievement gap" between black students of Caribbean decent and black students of American decent that has been very palpable throughout my educational and professional career.

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if you notice, the absolute majority of the most successful doctors, lawyers, surgeons, and nurses, are either Jamaican, African, Chinese, or Haitian so please- let's not go there- your children would be lucky to be in classes with "foreign born" children-maybe AMBITION will rub off on them and maybe-just maybe- someone else can turn out as successful as you have Ms. Almost Law Graduate.
I'll disagree with your "the absolute majority" analysis, because that's not exactly true. I'd actually put the most successful doctors and lawyers and surgeons as American Jews, to be honest. Haven't met a Haitian or Chinese or African lawyer yet (a few Jamaicans though, who seem to outnumber American black lawyers I know.... which takes me back to my language barrier analysis, and why test scores that focus on same may be lower in areas with high immigration --- ya think?!), and my doctors all seem to be named "Goldstein" or some derivative.

But, I don't think you know enough about me to get on your preacher stand. I am first generation in this country (my father is an immigrant from a non-English speaking country) and if you have a problem with my first hand analysis of what's contributing to lower test scores in places in St. Lucie County with high migrant and lower economic ladder ESOL kids, then please, attack that analysis. Your attacking of American doctors, lawyers, surgeons, etc. is not productive either. Most American doctors follow the dollar to the high paying fields and specialties, which is why many of the doctors we come in contact with in hospitals, etc. are often foreign born because American doctors chase the dollar, leaving much of our day to day contact physicians for those willing to work for lower pay. Look at Britain, where every NHS doctor appears to be from Pakistan.

I have an American friend who makes well over 100k/year as a nurse for a specialist. Maybe you won't see her as a "successful" Haitian nurse in a hospital setting, but I assure you, she is doing quite well for herself.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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I have found that the world is full of all types of people with all kinds of hangups. Some hangups you may identify with and some you will not understand. Go thru life easier. The world is coming at you.
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