A question for those wanting to move to Portland (earthquake, to live in)

[Skippy Weaselpants]

Originally Posted by Nell Plotts

I graduated from the U of O..... waggon

Did you learn to spell at the U of O? HAHA, just kidddddding.

[alexxiz]

Originally Posted by hamellr

That was California, not Oregon

And that only happened because the leader was lost, which is another apt comparison.

At least they enjoyed the views of Donner Pass, the ones to die for...

[tomthefrog51]

here is the real and brutal truth from native portlanders and oregonians in general, most people wont be as brutaly honest as i am, but, oregonians and specificly portlanders dont want californians here, period. they are not welcome here. oh yes we will be neighborly and most people are afraid to be honest about this but in reality if youre from california... stay home! everyone is welcome. californians stay home get a clue!

[alexxiz]

Originally Posted by tomthefrog51

here is the real and brutal truth from native portlanders and oregonians in general, most people wont be as brutaly honest as i am, but, oregonians and specificly portlanders dont want californians here, period. they are not welcome here. oh yes we will be neighborly and most people are afraid to be honest about this but in reality if youre from california... stay home! everyone is welcome. californians stay home get a clue!

So, what makes someone a "Californian"? Since CA has a lot of transplants (just like Portland and entire Western Oregon now)... born and raised? grew up there until 10, 15, 20 years old? Or, just lived in CA,--for 2, 5, 10, 20 years?

[christiner81]

Originally Posted by tomthefrog51

here is the real and brutal truth from native portlanders and oregonians in general, most people wont be as brutaly honest as i am, but, oregonians and specificly portlanders dont want californians here, period. they are not welcome here. oh yes we will be neighborly and most people are afraid to be honest about this but in reality if youre from california... stay home! everyone is welcome. californians stay home get a clue!

lol, OK. noted!

[khyron]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

The questions I never see (and have never seen) asked are about local politics and politicians, urban development plans, how the city spends it tax dollars, etc

I cared about these kinds of things...a great deal in fact. The absence of that sort of discussion on CD just drove me elsewhere (places I can't link to, I imagine...crazy rules) online and also to many of the excellent documentaries which have been produced about the city.

Most importantly, if anyone comes across this thread who hasn't already looked at the following PDF, now's the time:

The Portland Plan - Proposed Draft

[hamellr]

Originally Posted by tomthefrog51

here is the real and brutal truth from native portlanders and oregonians in general, most people wont be as brutaly honest as i am, but, oregonians and specificly portlanders dont want californians here, period. they are not welcome here. oh yes we will be neighborly and most people are afraid to be honest about this but in reality if youre from california... stay home! everyone is welcome. californians stay home get a clue!

BS. Period. What Oregonians are against are anyone who comes to this state for it's uniqueness then tries to change it just like it was at home. Or compares it against their home and says that Oregon sucks based on some arbitrary value. "Oh, why doesn't Burns Oregon have a Trader Joes, a Whole Foods, fifteen dog parks and mild weather year round, except for six feet of snow during December. "

[Cinnamon_Girl]

Originally Posted by alexxiz

So, what makes someone a "Californian"? Since CA has a lot of transplants (just like Portland and entire Western Oregon now)... born and raised? grew up there until 10, 15, 20 years old? Or, just lived in CA,--for 2, 5, 10, 20 years?

Great question. The statement does seem pretty non-specific on the face of it.

[PNWdreamin]

Originally Posted by tomthefrog51

here is the real and brutal truth from native portlanders and oregonians in general, most people wont be as brutaly honest as i am, but, oregonians and specificly portlanders dont want californians here, period. they are not welcome here. oh yes we will be neighborly and most people are afraid to be honest about this but in reality if youre from california... stay home! everyone is welcome. californians stay home get a clue!

Well, I was born and raised in California and plan on moving to Portland within the next few years. I have to say that it's comments like this that make me worry a little. Everyone has an opinion, but it's so sad and wrong to assume that everyone from a state is the same. I'm not a huge fan of California myself, which is why I am happy to leave. But I must say that the people here are some of the most diverse in the US. CA is made up of people from every state (including Oregon). Even the people who were born and raised here can sometimes seem like they are from different parts of the world. Someone who grew up in the Bay Area will probably have a completely different personality then someone who grew up in Orange county. I know there is a stereotype about California, and yes, you will find those people here. However that stereotype is not the norm. Obviously some Californians have left a bad taste in your mouth. But I really hope that when my family and I move to Portland, that we are not judged on what State we are from, but rather on our personalities

[doggiemama]

Don't give it another thought, PNWdreamin. I have found people here to be extremely friendly.