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Old 03-19-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think the tram is the unfortunate result of the hospitals and medical school on the hill deciding about 40 years ago not to relocate. I can remember the discussion. As a consequence they are site constrained and access for patients and staff limited.

The tram went way over budget and the contractor had the City ... in a painful position.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Rockaway Beach, Oregon
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Always wondered about that... on the other hand, it seems like a pretty intelligent way to overcome the whole growth issue in spite of the expense.

Short-term, yeah, kinda dumb-looking. Long-term, the riverside area shows a lot of future breathing room for OHSU (and I daresay the VAMC too, since disabled vets can get up/down the thing for free with their VA card). If they're paying for the majority of it themselves, I have no problem with it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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I think the tram is the unfortunate result of the hospitals and medical school on the hill deciding about 40 years ago not to relocate. I can remember the discussion. As a consequence they are site constrained and access for patients and staff limited.

The tram went way over budget and the contractor had the City ... in a painful position.
Wasn't most of the over budget problem related to the drastic increase in steel prices?
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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If anyone's curious about some of the details of how the Aerial Tram was built, this short documentary hits some of the key points...proceeding from this you could do your own further research:

Of the Air, Of the Earth: The Story of the Portland Aerial Tram
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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What does it matter to you? According to you, Portlanders never leave their basements. What do they need with transportation, public or otherwise?
Man are you a picker of nits. If it did not create a headache I would explain to you that even those who live in basements have to emerge to make a living, go to school and maybe shop at a Plaid Pantry.

Why should I have to explain that to you? I should not have to.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:53 AM
 
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You mean the tram that was paid over 75% for by the hospital/school that uses it, who also happens to be the biggest employer in Portland? You mean that tram?
How in the world does the tram negate the need for a car in Portland.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Rockaway Beach, Oregon
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How in the world does the tram negate the need for a car in Portland.
Ffweeet! reductio ad absurdum. Five-yard penalty!
(and you brought the tram up originally, so don't gripe about the answers).

For what the tram does, it does very well - namely, it negates the need to drive back and forth between Pill Hill and the riverfront. If you're used to taking the bus to OHSU or the VAMC, you can still do that, and also use the tram to get down to the riverfront.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Nutmeg State
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You made the statement:
"Yes, that over-priced aerial tram really helps the mass of Portlanders go from home to work to school to shop and back again without a car." And it's actually too. Of course the tram alone does not permit one to live without a car.

The tram has made it possible for THOUSANDS of people at OHSU to get to work without a car (which is actually what you said). People bike, walk, run, skate, or ride the street car or bus to the base of the tram every day. In a few years when the MAX bridge is done, the tram will serve a whole new slew of people as well.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Not only folks who work at OHSU/Doernbecher Children's Hospital, but the Veteran's Administration Hospital, Shriner's Children's Hospital, Oregon Dental School (likely have forgotten someone) but their patients and visitors as well.

No denying that it exemplifies the Portland penchant for thinking outside the box when in a squeeze.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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In a few years when the MAX bridge is done, the tram will serve a whole new slew of people as well.
...and sooner than that, when the Gibbs pedestrian bridge (under construction and very far along now) is completed the entire neighborhood of Lair Hill will have easy walking access to both the tram and the streetcar.
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