10-08-2013, 03:32 PM
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I'm going to just make this short.
Basically, I don't care if a person wants to wear skinny jeans, drink starbucks, eat at Panera Bread, and work part time at Trader Joe's and just be a full on hipster. However, if you were to say the stereotype of Portland is true and 80% of the people there fit this above label, well then I'd probably lose interest in going to Portland just because that's an overwhelming number and I just wouldn't fit in well enough. Maybe fitting in is the wrong word, but I wouldn't go to a place where my interests weren't shared by many others obviously.
It's a stereotype Portland and Seattle have. Hipsters and depressed people because of the rain. People like to think NJ is all fist pumping guidos who just do gym, tan, and laundry. It's not true at all, but people have that impression unfortunately.
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10-08-2013, 04:02 PM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That stereotype fits maybe 10% of some neighborhoods, less elsewhere.
10-08-2013, 04:07 PM
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I just want a hipster girl, that's my only demand. Set me up with a dark red haired girl with some hipster glasses and who briefly messed around with a vegetarian lifestyle, but still likes to sit in B&N and drink those coffee drinks with the weird and long names (but doesn't expect me to do this regularly). Do that, and I'll be well on my way over in a couple of months.
10-08-2013, 04:30 PM
Location: Lakewood OH
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I give up. Move to Portland or don't move to Portland. You have already seemed to have formed an opinion of this city based on the hearsay from who knows what sources. If you don't want to come and see for yourself, you can believe in all the stereotypes you want despite the fact that people who actually live here are trying to tell you they are just stereotypes and nothing much more.
10-08-2013, 04:34 PM
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Also, that's good news about the IT field. To give you an idea of what I'm looking for in terms of a job, it's some sort of IT support/ Jr. Admin role. I had an interview for a nice entry job in the field that was to pay $20/Hour to be one of the few IT people at the Elevator Union Benefit office where about 85 people are employed. What would something similar pay in Portland? Ultimately I'll be working through the Cisco and Microsoft certification ranks to get a high end job (CCNP for Cisco} and then I doubt it'll be an issue finding a nice career since there's so few people with the CCNP and there is a need for it.
Depends on the company and if their HR department subscribes to the industry papers that tell them how much money to pay people based on job description.
Any where between $10-$25 depending on exact job duties. Basic IT support people are a dime a dozen, Database Skills, System Admin Skills can easily double or triple your pay.
10-08-2013, 04:38 PM
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Hey now, you just said 10% of the population fits the stereotype. And I just said I wanted a girl who fits that stereotype anyway, so I'm confused as to the frustration on your end. I fully intend to now come to Portland in 2014 for a vacation and then make an assessment from there.
I am from NJ, so I will bust the balls of a hipster if I end up talking to one. It's in my nature to do so, and I fully expect to have to defend myself from the "Jersey Shore" stereotype as well.
10-08-2013, 04:41 PM
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Depends on the company and if their HR department subscribes to the industry papers that tell them how much money to pay people based on job description.
Any where between $10-$25 depending on exact job duties. Basic IT support people are a dime a dozen, Database Skills, System Admin Skills can easily double or triple your pay.
I have a Liberal Arts degree (sounds so Portland of me already haha) actually, and am going to have a Computer Systems Technology degree in December. I'm A+ certified, and will be Network+ certified by the end of the year as well. Ultimately, the goes is MSCE or the Cisco one I mentioned. I'm sure by the time I head out to Portland I'll be Security+ certified as well and perhaps the Microsoft equivalent to the compTIA Network+.
System Admin is the career goal.
10-08-2013, 04:54 PM
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I'm going to just make this short.
Basically, I don't care if a person wants to wear skinny jeans, drink starbucks, eat at Panera Bread, and work part time at Trader Joe's and just be a full on hipster. However, if you were to say the stereotype of Portland is true and 80% of the people there fit this above label, well then I'd probably lose interest in going to Portland just because that's an overwhelming number and I just wouldn't fit in well enough. Maybe fitting in is the wrong word, but I wouldn't go to a place where my interests weren't shared by many others obviously.
I think most of the Panera Breads in the area are in suburban malls so you don't have to worry much about that part of the stereotype. I didn't even realize that was part of the cliched image of hipsters.
There's tons of people who are just average dudes in Portland who like to just relax and watch sports--one of our most popular bars in town is a giant sports bar(Spirit of 77)--and there's a lot of bars downtown and in NW Portland that aren't very hipsterish and sort of Irish pubs and so on, but at the same time I don't know...what's really attracting you to Portland?
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Hey now, you just said 10% of the population fits the stereotype. And I just said I wanted a girl who fits that stereotype anyway, so I'm confused as to the frustration on your end. I fully intend to now come to Portland in 2014 for a vacation and then make an assessment from there.
I am from NJ, so I will bust the balls of a hipster if I end up talking to one. It's in my nature to do so, and I fully expect to have to defend myself from the "Jersey Shore" stereotype as well.
Well, I mean do you look like you're on Jersey Shore? There's a ton of people from the East Coast here already, it's not like you're the first guy who moved from Jersey or that no one has ever met someone from Jersey(hell my college in Oregon had a bunch of people from Jersey). But I mean, you can bust the balls of anyone you want, but for a lot of people what gets defined as "hipster" is just a certain fashion look. Most of them are pretty harmless, just kids following a certain style.
10-08-2013, 05:05 PM
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No, you probably wouldn't realize where I was from I feel like. I have a couple of friends who I'd consider hipsters though, but I don't want to come off as some sort of person who just absolutely hates hipsters or something and it's starting to probably sound like I am.
When I went away to college, I'd say that was the first time I had friends of all different backgrounds. I had gay friends, friends into anime, and friends just wanting to watch the Jets play on Sunday. So I'm able to get a long with everyone for the most part. However, it did get old hanging out with people who just wanted to watch Two Broke Girls and play Final Fantasy, when those were things I never ever wanted to do. So I can't say I'd be able to do without meeting people with my interests (which you've all made me feel confident that this will not be an issue).
I don't know what to tell you when you want to know why I'm thinking Portland. It's just a crazy fantasy about the place that makes me want to go. I've heard it's a technology bubble so the job outlook should be good for me. They love their sports so that's good for me. It doesn't usually get crazy cold which I like. I like coffee and the idea of a relaxed atmosphere and being able just to walk around on a nice 60 degree day enjoying myself. I like the sound of the small bars with relaxing atmosphere over huge party areas.
10-08-2013, 05:07 PM
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I think most of the Panera Breads in the area are in suburban malls so you don't have to worry much about that part of the stereotype. I didn't even realize that was part of the cliched image of hipsters.
There's tons of people who are just average dudes in Portland who like to just relax and watch sports--one of our most popular bars in town is a giant sports bar(Spirit of 77)--and there's a lot of bars downtown and in NW Portland that aren't very hipsterish and sort of Irish pubs and so on, but at the same time I don't know...what's really attracting you to Portland?
Well, I mean do you look like you're on Jersey Shore? There's a ton of people from the East Coast here already, it's not like you're the first guy who moved from Jersey or that no one has ever met someone from Jersey(hell my college in Oregon had a bunch of people from Jersey). But I mean, you can bust the balls of anyone you want, but for a lot of people what gets defined as "hipster" is just a certain fashion look. Most of them are pretty harmless, just kids following a certain style.
He said he wants a red-headed hipster Portland girl. I guess the red-headed Jersey hipster girls aren't interested in him.
I think of hipsters as those people who like to wear clothing styles of the fifties. Honestly, when I walk down Hawthorne Blvd, I see my fashion past all around me. Even the ones that go to Claudia's Sports Bar.
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People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)