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Old 04-06-2015, 09:35 AM
 
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Secular liberalism is a religion in and of itself. I would almost venture to say that it's liberal-Christianity with the theology taken out. Portland has many adherents to this system of beliefs and ethics.
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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Do you have a plan for replacing the charitable works, private schools (which take the "weight" of thousands of school children off Oregon's struggling public school system) and hospitals that are affiliated with religious organizations?
My dad gives a ton of money to various charities and he's not religious. Somehow, I think society would be JUST fine without the tyranny of thousands of years old fairy tales that grown adults somehow cling to.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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Secular liberalism is a religion in and of itself. I would almost venture to say that it's liberal-Christianity with the theology taken out. Portland has many adherents to this system of beliefs and ethics.
Oxymoron. I think what you mean to say is that you think secular liberalism is a "philosophy". It is most definitely NOT a religion. A religion requires a belief in a supernatural god or gods. Since secularism, by its very definition lacks that belief, it is not a religion. Just pointing that out. We need to get people's ideas that atheism is a "religion" out of their heads. It is the lack of a religion.
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Oxymoron. I think what you mean to say is that you think secular liberalism is a "philosophy". It is most definitely NOT a religion. A religion requires a belief in a supernatural god or gods. Since secularism, by its very definition lacks that belief, it is not a religion. Just pointing that out. We need to get people's ideas that atheism is a "religion" out of their heads. It is the lack of a religion.
Wrong. Religion - "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group". Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Therefore calling secular liberalism a religion as an adjective to describe the noun is correct given the context.
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Wrong. Religion - "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group". Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Therefore calling secular liberalism a religion as an adjective to describe the noun is correct given the context.
Lol, I see how you gloss over the first two definitions and how most everyone in the world would define "religion". I guess you would define "philosophy" as how?
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Wrong. Religion - "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group". Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Therefore calling secular liberalism a religion as an adjective to describe the noun is correct given the context.
If that is how you define "religion" I guess you must see BILLIONS of religions happening all over the place. All hobbies and all beliefs that are important to anyone (I personally believe fruit with chocolate is gross and that is very important to me, that is a religion to you). I gotta do this again ->
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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Who cares? Mainly what's the point? I'm a little tired of the Nouveau Athiest,,tired of them strutting their stuff like a Born Again Christian... Tired tired tired of both sides....Please go have a debate somewhere where people care...
Thank you...
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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I'm not an atheist but I wish that percentage was much higher.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm not an atheist but I wish that percentage was much higher.
I agree. Though at the very least, I do hope we can at least adhere to a clear separation of church and state. I think most everyone would benefit by keeping religion out of politics.

EDIT: Removed my last sentence, as I was posting something meant for another thread.

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Old 04-08-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Wrong. Religion - "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group". Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Therefore calling secular liberalism a religion as an adjective to describe the noun is correct given the context.
You conveniently left out the primary and secondary definitions of the word as listed at your Webster link. Allow me to cut and paste them for you since your process to do so was broken:
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"the belief in a god or in a group of gods"
"an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods"
While calling secular liberalism a religion is reasonable with the third definition you quoted, it twists the nature and spirit of the thread. I know it. You know it. Or can you point us to the Secular Liberalism church?
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