Are Portland and Berkley similar? (Eugene: house, buying, schools)

[NW4me]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

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The above post is interesting and very telling.

It's like you are saying that Oregon and Portland have no identity of their own, but that they are a combination of Washington and California.

That's petty much the way it feels now anyways.
Oregon is becoming a State of transplants.
Maybe that's why this town is getting so crazy, it doesn't have it's own identity.
Portland is always compared to where you came from.

I for one am honored to be one of the last remaining few that knows what it's like to identify as a born and bred Oregonian (before the population exploded and changed everything) and not an interstate mutt.

When did this 'explosion' happen? Californians (and others) have been moving to Oregon since at least the 1970s, prompting that famous quip from the Governor to "visit us, but don't stay." Did the Portlandia TV show accelerate the influx?

[pdxMIKEpdx]

When did this 'explosion' happen?

Really?
Is this a serious question?

Where have you been the last 20 years?

[Merrily Gather]

The reality is many cities are growing everywhere. The planet passed 7 billion people and it isn't slowing down. It is what it is.

Portland definitely has its own vibe and doesn't feel homogenized. They make it their own while still being welcoming but aware.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by NW4me

When did this 'explosion' happen? Californians (and others) have been moving to Oregon since at least the 1970s, prompting that famous quip from the Governor to "visit us, but don't stay." Did the Portlandia TV show accelerate the influx?

I moved to Portland in the late 70's. I left in 2014. Of course changes happened but I feel the biggest were made in the 90's. That's when it felt like the strongest surge took place. I do believe that "Portlandia" had an influence on people wanting to move there but wasn't the only reason.

[pdxMIKEpdx]

The NY Times also played a huge part.

Portland was their "Darling" west coast city.

I think that a lot of recent residents just have absolutely no clue how different this city was back in the 80's and 90's, even into the early 2000's...

It hasn't always been like it is now.
To me, the major changes happened from 2005 (about the time Sam Adams showed up) to the present.

It's very hard sometimes for us lifetime residents to stomach the "It is what it is" comments.

Portland never expected, nor wanted to be a major west coast hub like Seattle or San Francisco.

The infrastructure just doesn't exist for a metropolitan area of over 2,000,000 people in the "Portland Region" (the five Oregon counties surrounding Portland).

[Dapper Zoom]

I think the booming cost of living in the SF Bay Area and Seattle are encouraging a lot of people to consider Portland.

[Merrily Gather]

If you go on the NYC C-D forum you'll see similar sentiments lamenting about the past where members are missing the more gritty New York of the 70's and 80's and complaining about transplants from time to time. Then others come on and counter with the past is dead and let it go. That it wasn't as good as any of them remember it really. I've also read similar on the Boise forum and a couple others like this one. Too many people crowding and changing things, etc and my Grandma said back in her day people were saying the same things. lol

"The more things change the more they stay the same."

[Thom52]

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

The reality is many cities are growing everywhere. The planet passed 7 billion people and it isn't slowing down. It is what it is.

.....

This.

And I am not saying that is a good thing.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

If you go on the NYC C-D forum you'll see similar sentiments lamenting about the past where members are missing the more gritty New York of the 70's and 80's and complaining about transplants from time to time. Then others come on and counter with the past is dead and let it go. That it wasn't as good as any of them remember it really. I've also read similar on the Boise forum and a couple others like this one. Too many people crowding and changing things, etc and my Grandma said back in her day people were saying the same things. lol

"The more things change the more they stay the same."

It isn't the past people are complaining about so much as the blatant disregard for those who have built the cities up to the present from those who are new step in and act as if they nothing existed before they arrived. They often refuse to listen to the incumbents and continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

[CamMcllel]

Alberta street can feel a little like Berkley. Cultually, Pdx and Berkely are simialar, but so are urban cities along the West coast. Berkley is the heart of liberal thought in many ways though.