05-05-2008, 07:13 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Ok,
I am getting ready for our trip out to Portland this Saturday and am really psyched.
Last night I flying thru the city via Google Earth around all the places we are considering to live in. And I must admit that I can see why the West Linn and Lake Oswego areas are so popular and expensive. As I was 'flying' over the Willamette River around these areas I couldn't help but notice the awesome beauty.
Then I flew over Hillsboro, Beaverton, Tigard and Sherwood. And I would have to say that at least form the sky the others all looked about the same. Now I am not saying they look bad but just that they had that standard suburbia look with houses lined up and a some neighborhood parks here and there.
But of course I realize that Google Earth has its limitations. And yet it is hard to deny the beauty my wife and I saw of the pictures kayakers took while cruising the river in and around West Linn/Lake Oswego. Not to mention there are some really nice looking state parks/nature areas right there as well. So is this really one the nicest parts of Portland proper for scenery, river access and outdoor activity?
Just south of downtown looks pretty nice as well - Marquam Hill, Burlingame, etc...
West Linn seems a bit pricey. But if it is really that nice it may be worth say getting a fixer upper on a decent lot with easy access to the river, parks, nature centers, etc...
Lastly since I work in IT I was wondering how the commute might be from West Linn to the Silicon Forest (Beaverton/Hillsboro) area?
Thanks,
Derek
05-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Location: DC Area, for now
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I have friends who live in West Linn. Their house is up a hill and from it, it looks very private, tho too shady for my taste. They like the location for the good schools when their kids were in them and the easy accessibility to serious outdoorsy stuff, cycling, and running. They commute to downtown. The area is very pretty with lots of hills and the Willamette close by
05-05-2008, 07:38 PM
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You might want to check out the John's Landing area. SW Macadam is the main street, and it turns into Hwy 43 as you head south towards Lake Oswego.
John's Landing is close to downtown, has a variety of houses. Some are about 100 years old. Willamette Park and the river form the eastern border for John's Landing. If I were staying in Portland, I'd probably buy a house there. There are also some nice condos along the river.
The only minor things I don't like about it are the small lots and the poor radio reception.
I hope you have a good stay and that the nice weather holds for you.
05-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Location: Pacific NW
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If you're looking for a "natural" area, West Linn/Lake Oswego is definitely it. Another difference is they're in the hills, while Beaverton/Hillsboro are on the Tualatin Plains. Flat means it was farmed, and farms were easy to convert into housing developments.
West Linn/Lake Oswego has a fairly straight route over to Hillsboro/Beaverton, but Highway 217 (the most direct route) is heavily traveled, and crowded. It's not my part of town, but I imagine there are some back routes that might be less crowded.
05-06-2008, 08:20 AM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Thanks guys/gals,
I look forward to seeing the area in person. My first instinct when I heard about of popularity and prices of West Linn/Lake Oswego was to stay away!
I normally look for something more low key. But the area seems to possess many of the qualities we are searching for so we will have to check it out.
The prices are quite a bit more as I was checking out various RE sites last night. But it seems like there may be 'some' deals to be had. Then there are the adjoining towns where prices seem to drop relatively quickly like eastern parts of Tigard & Tualatin. And of course there is Wanker's Corner which is pretty close to the action! LOL...
I guess it boils down to how close one wants to be to the river vs. having a possibly newer, larger home. It would be a trade off for us but may be worth it. I know our kids would enjoy a walk or bike ride down to the river.
05-06-2008, 09:49 AM
Location: Oregon
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Don't forget to take lots of pictures! LOL.
I'm interested in the biking trails (or lack of?) in Lake Oswego/Tualatin/Wilsonvill/Sherwood areas myself. If you see anything interesting can you post and/or take some pics? I love your pictures so any of the actual neighborhood feel of your areas would probably be much appreciated by all. Have fun! I'm jealous. LOL. I'll be up there in July though, so not too much longer.
05-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Thanks guys/gals,
I look forward to seeing the area in person. My first instinct when I heard about of popularity and prices of West Linn/Lake Oswego was to stay away!
I normally look for something more low key. But the area seems to possess many of the qualities we are searching for so we will have to check it out.
The prices are quite a bit more as I was checking out various RE sites last night. But it seems like there may be 'some' deals to be had. Then there are the adjoining towns where prices seem to drop relatively quickly like eastern parts of Tigard & Tualatin. And of course there is Wanker's Corner which is pretty close to the action! LOL...
I guess it boils down to how close one wants to be to the river vs. having a possibly newer, larger home. It would be a trade off for us but may be worth it. I know our kids would enjoy a walk or bike ride down to the river.
Don't forget there are many rivers, creeks and streams. Willamette is just one, flowing relatively north and south. There is the Columbia, of course, then there is the Clackamas river, lots of people fish there.. I'm not so sure about the quality of the water, but it is lovely. Somewhat shallow in some places, other areas can handle motor boats. Johnson Creek in the Milwaukie area sometimes floods and gets publicity when it does. Kelly Creek runs through part of Milwaukie (Aldercrest Rd.) also and is in a small wooded valley. Homes along there are in shade and the prices can be around what you're seeking.. and be on the year round creek.
Tualatin River, shallower, about 20 - 40 feet wide river (like trout fishing type?) also has newer homes (90's anyway) in Willamette off Borland Road.
Up in the Beaverton area... (well NW Portland) there is the Forest Park area. This is the largest park in the US metropolitan area, from what I've heard. Over 5,000 acres and 70 miles of mixed use trails. Mostly wooded with incredible habitat. There is the Audobon Park with wild birds being kept (some were injured in their youth and would not survive in the wild). Dogs are NOT allowed in this park and for those who are allergic or don't like having dogs frequently "off leash" in areas where they don't belong, it is a nice change.
Most areas of Portland are very dog friendly, but not everyone living here enjoys them that much. So much for the river park info.
Tigard and Tualatin have many newer homes as it was built up rather quickly, and there are good schools in the area (not quite as stellar as LO and West Linn schools, but certainly solid with some good programs). and it's not too terribly far from the IT areas.
Happy Valley and Damascus also are gorgeous with rolling hills, great closer views of MT. Hood. Both of those areas, although not as heavily treed as Lake Oswego, have newer gorgeous homes... Because it was overbuilt quickly on speculation, mostly, there are bargains to be had now. (Including short sales). I don't know about a year or two from now.
05-06-2008, 05:32 PM
Location: Pacific NW
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It's Kellogg Creek in Milwaukie. That would not be an easy commute, though.
05-06-2008, 05:42 PM
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We recently purchased a house in Lake Oswego (LO). LO is much more expensive for sure. West Linn is very nice too. We purchased a smaller house on a smaller lot to get into LO. You're right about the positives of LO/WL. Proximity to Portland, nature, schools etc make these two as nice options. Unless you have to have the schools here, I would recommend you to also look at Tigard. Reason is that Tigard is not that far (about 5-10 minutes away).
I also love the nothwest part of Portland. But a little more urban that we liked. West Linn is very nice. It does have a lot of dependency on I-205.
So far everything is great with our move to LO. We've hiked and biked in Tryon Creek State park, and Forest Park. Both are beyond great. Tryon Creek is about 600+ acres and Forest Park is about 8-9x that. Tryon Creek is at the edge of LO (about 4 miles from where we live).
Friends of*Tryon Creek State Park
Forest Park is about a 15-20 minute drive depending on traffic.
Access to shopping and restaurants is also amazing. Within a short distance of our house we can get to schools, my work, restaurants and shopping. There is a nice shopping area in Tigard called Bridgeport, and it has most everything:
Bridgeport Village - Best shopping center in Portland, OR
The negatives, like you said, it is expensive in terms of house prices. Hwy 217 is the way into Beaverton/Hillsboro. 217 is congested often. However, there are many back roads which is very nice, but can get frustrating with all the traffic lights. I highly recommend to stay close to where you will work.
One positive thing about commuting from here is that there is a new commuter train service that is going to start fall of this year. It goes through Wilsonville, Tualatin and Tigard. From our house in LO the train stop in Tigard is less than 4 miles away without having to get on any highway. That is cool and I can't wait :-)
More info about the new service is here:
TriMet: WES Commuter Rail (Washington County, Wilsonville to Beaverton)
In Beaverton, you will be able to transfer to the MAX, so that is nice too.
By the way, I-5 is seriously congested during rush hour. You want to avoid if all possible. But I believe this new commuter train will help provide another commuting option. I don't know much about 205 yet...
05-06-2008, 07:20 PM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's Kellogg Creek in Milwaukie. That would not be an easy commute, though.
Thanks... I knew it didn't look quite right... Long day..
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Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)