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Old 04-23-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR.
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I'd sure as hell like to leave. I moved here 10 years ago right after high school and I'm over it. It's definitely not an awful place, and I've made life long friends here, but I feel I could be doing better in other places. Sometimes I think you just get the itch to go elsewhere, no matter where you live.
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Same here after a year, we are seeing if my wife gets into a practicum program that's not offered where we want to move...if not we're pretty much going to be leaving when a job presents itself (in my industry there are still positions open, and getting calls from recruiters) and if she does we'll only stay another 2 years. It's not terrible in Portland like many other places I can think of, but I have lived in better...especially if Portland is going to be suffering a good deal more from the economic decline then the average.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I'd sure as hell like to leave. I moved here 10 years ago right after high school and I'm over it. It's definitely not an awful place, and I've made life long friends here, but I feel I could be doing better in other places. Sometimes I think you just get the itch to go elsewhere, no matter where you live.
So go. The roads head out of town as well as in.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Seeing the people taking jobs elsewhere at work (we get emails about doctors and director positions and above when they leave as well) and those getting laid off are leaving the state more often then not...there is a pretty big brain drain going out. Considering most of the people who seem to want to move in are starving artists, slackers, and non career oriented folks...it will be interesting how it plays out.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR.
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So go. The roads head out of town as well as in.
relocating to an entirely different area takes a plan, which takes time and patience.

Thanks for you blinding revelation about the freeway though.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR.
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Seeing the people taking jobs elsewhere at work (we get emails about doctors and director positions and above when they leave as well) and those getting laid off are leaving the state more often then not...there is a pretty big brain drain going out. Considering most of the people who seem to want to move in are starving artists, slackers, and non career oriented folks...it will be interesting how it plays out.
Pretty much I agree...in my experience (purely anecdotal I admit...but whatever) hardly anyone moves here for career advancement. Sure, some people get transferred in with Nike or Intel or maybe a handful of other employers around here, but mostly in my experience people love to come here to go to college and smoke weed all day, then they promptly get the hell out of here, or eventually end up having to leave because they cant find a job that pays a middle class wage. Honestly I'm really lucky to have my job, I know that, because this seriously is one of the most pathetic job/wage markets in the country for how relatively expensive it is to live here. The numbers dont lie either.
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Old 06-06-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: American People's Democratic Capitalist Republic of South Carolina
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Strange how things work. I lived baking in sunlight for over 20 years in both Arizona and California. And I couldn't be happier that my ass is now getting wet. I had forgotten there were things like natural lakes and the little things like, you know, colors and trees in this world as I slowly melted away in fake, fake, and now tremendously more fake suburban Phoenix. Each time I go back to visit friends and family, within an hour of getting off the plane, I'm reminded like a slap in the face why I left that dump and came to the Pacific Northwest - a place that actually has soul.
Glad to see someone has an idea about soul of a place. I never been in PNW, but will visit some day. If you're still there, could you explain in more detail what you feel about the place that it has soul? Is it something in the air or because of rain and humidity, a mix of human particles of past and present lives, energy, energy of nature, of rock, of buildings, of human-scaped nature, smells, bacteria, humidity, light, flora, tectonics, weather or something more than that?
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Glad to see someone has an idea about soul of a place. I never been in PNW, but will visit some day. If you're still there, could you explain in more detail what you feel about the place that it has soul? Is it something in the air or because of rain and humidity, a mix of human particles of past and present lives, energy, energy of nature, of rock, of buildings, of human-scaped nature, smells, bacteria, humidity, light, flora, tectonics, weather or something more than that?
Oh, but ah-h-h, ahem, ah.....
You see Portland ain't for everybody. Get a globe or a big map... now measure the distance from the Arctic Circle to Portland (or Seattle for that matter) and then measure Chicago, Buffalo NY, and Boston, MA. Being close to Pacific Ocean, we get rain, not snow and freezing temps. Now measure London or Manchester over in England to the Arctic Circle; you know, the other places it rains a lot.

Just take my word for it, the PNW ain't sunny Southern California. It rains, and drizzles, and is overcast about 7 or 8 months per year. The Summers are awesome.

You know how it is gray, overcast, high humidity, and rains a lot in South Carolina from about July through maybe early September? Well, we in the PNW get that plus very cool temperature from about early December till end of May, maybe into June. A very cool, damp, drizzle rain winter that seeps deep into your bones and joints. And we love it, cuz it makes us go out and spend $2.00 for a cup of 30 cents worth of strong burnt flavored coffee.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
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Glad to see someone has an idea about soul of a place. I never been in PNW, but will visit some day. If you're still there, could you explain in more detail what you feel about the place that it has soul? Is it something in the air or because of rain and humidity, a mix of human particles of past and present lives, energy, energy of nature, of rock, of buildings, of human-scaped nature, smells, bacteria, humidity, light, flora, tectonics, weather or something more than that?
I think it's the vortexes (just kidding, that would be Sedona)

Phil and binky pretty much nailed it. And I agree, although I love Arizona, most of Phoenix has no soul whatsoever.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
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I'd sure as hell like to leave. I moved here 10 years ago right after high school and I'm over it. It's definitely not an awful place, and I've made life long friends here, but I feel I could be doing better in other places. Sometimes I think you just get the itch to go elsewhere, no matter where you live.
Well if you start planting roots, it gets tougher every year that you wait.
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