06-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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This is just a few musings on my part...
06-29-2011, 01:28 PM
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Things change, that's for sure.
My home town and hangouts are nothing like they were, if they even exist.
Life goes on. You cannot stop change nor can you stop from getting older.
I know, then there is that paying taxes stuff too.
It is true, you can't go "home" again. It just does not exist the way we remember, not much does.
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06-29-2011, 01:28 PM
Location: Southern Yavapai County
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Low Roller
Sadly, that applies to a lot of places.
06-29-2011, 02:29 PM
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I'll be going to the rodeo Friday night, which will be the only thing remotely similar to the Prescott of 40 years ago - sadly.
Yep, things have changed. Prescott was still pretty decent up until around
1990 . It was after that when it started going downhill. What really started it was the flight from SoCal into Prescott and the RE boom. It came in 2 waves, first in 1990 - 1997 and then it slowed down until the 2nd wave hit from 2003 - 2008.
When the Lee developers destroyed the mountain on Highway 69 and Prescott Lakes Parkway in order to build Wal-Mart, it was quite the travesty. They literally took out half the mountain to build a pad for Wal-Mart.
Remember the water balloon fights? The entire town would have an annual water fight until some newbie complained about it and the water fights ceased.
Also, the town literally rolled up the carpet at 5PM. The word "traffic" was never uttered. There was only the Frontier Village movie theater, no Harkins. Back then you could literally leave your door unlocked. It might sound cliche but it was very Mayberry like. Everyone knew everyone and it was truly AZ's small town and it had charm.
It pains me to read that phrase when they tote it today, "Everyone's home town". I'm sorry but the small town charm is dead and gone.
06-29-2011, 05:32 PM
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You could always move to Detroit if you long for the action of the Wild West!
06-29-2011, 06:19 PM
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Mayberry never was, much like the memories of some.
06-29-2011, 07:16 PM
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I really like living here for the same reasons you don't. There is Costco, Sam's Club, Soon a Trader Joe's. Two Home Depots, Lowes, mall, Target, Ross, Mostly all the conveniences of a big city. I live out in the country..so I have the best of both worlds. I can sit on my patio and watch the cows feed or antelope and in 30 mins be at Costco.
06-29-2011, 09:56 PM
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I really like living here for the same reasons you don't. There is Costco, Sam's Club, Soon a Trader Joe's. Two Home Depots, Lowes, mall, Target, Ross, Mostly all the conveniences of a big city. I live out in the country..so I have the best of both worlds. I can sit on my patio and watch the cows feed or antelope and in 30 mins be at Costco.
I enjoy those things also but they came with a price/compromise. That price is increased crime, drugs, traffic, cost of living, city lights, noise, pollution, etc.
There is NO reason to have 2 HD's in the area. Complete overkill. Not to mention 2 and maybe now 3 Wal-Marts. I could do without the Gateway Mall, it is a pink elephant anyways. It is failing and failing hard. Mega malls never impressed me.
Sure it's nice to have those conveniences but people did without them for years and survived. What got ruined is that people moved here wanting the same things that destroyed the area they were moving away from.
Last edited by DellNec; 06-29-2011 at 10:11 PM ..
06-29-2011, 10:58 PM
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Prescott was still pretty decent up until around 1990 . It was after that when it started going downhill. What really started it was the flight from SoCal into Prescott and the RE boom.
Yes, that's what I've been told by others - hence the rock music and disappearance of country music and cowboy hats.
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It pains me to read that phrase when they tote it today, "Everyone's home town". I'm sorry but the small town charm is dead and gone.
Yes. I don't mind having a Costco and WM (one would be enough,) but what I think is sad is that Prescott is no longer a "western" town, but a California clone pretending to be a western town.
I will attend the rodeo, but even that has changed with some kind of screwed up scoring so you don't know who wins or loses (as I found out last year.)
So Prescott Frontier Days is little more now than a less entertaining rodeo and a three-day arts and crafts flea market.
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You could always move to Detroit if you long for the action of the Wild West!
I didn't say I was suicidal!!!
(Anyway, I'm sure that city only allows criminals to have guns.)
If anyone does happen to know where the rodeo cowboys hang out while in town, I'd really appreciate knowing. I'd like to see some cowboy hats and listen to some country music for a change on the 4th. Let the rock music go back to Cali.
06-30-2011, 03:10 AM
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C'mon, now. You can't blame California for everything.
Why not?
(BTW: I was born and raised in South Gate, a suburb of El-Lay.)
It just galls me that now Prescott is just pretending to be a western town - and doing that very badly.
I'm not a big C&W fan, actually, but when I'm in a town that has a rodeo and a festival called, "Frontier Days," I don't want to be entertained by some old hippies playing rock music. I can't even think of a club or venue that plays country music up here - and certainly not on Whiskey Row.
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Rapid population growth changes a lot of towns, regardless of the source.
Yes, but in Prescott's case the source is universally accepted to be Cali.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone think Californians ruined Prescott Valley? It sure grew a lot faster than Prescott in the last 20 years
PV doesn't pawn itself off as a western town with "The World's Oldest Rodeo," etc. No, PV is as western as Cucamonga.
I don't mean to be a crab here, it's just that the 4th here is now SO disappointing compared to those of yesteryear.
I know "Junior" is a stylized depiction of it, but I'll bet Whiskey Row back then was a sea of cowboy hats, and the music in the Palace bar was country.
I just think it's sad that Prescott doesn't even try to bring that back - even a little bit.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I didn't say I was suicidal!!! 
(Anyway, I'm sure that city only allows criminals to have guns.)
(BTW: I was born and raised in South Gate, a suburb of El-Lay.)
