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Old 06-01-2013, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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OK. So Farmers Field is probably as much of a done deal as it could be. LA will have an NFL stadium. Now it needs a team. Or two. The question is: which will it be.

Look. The market will have a huge part in answering the question. I don't think the NFL is looking to expand. And the market will most likely dish up The Los Angeles Jaguars. Jacksonville just can't support the team.

But does the NFL really want just one team in the nation's second biggest market? Does the league want LA to be like NY? LA is not a bad football town and there were reasons why the Rams and Raiders left at the same time which do not relate to the the city and its fans.

The NFL operates with two prime networks: CBS for the AFC and Fox for the NFC. It seems to me that if there is one LA team, one of those two networks gets screwed. The LA Jaguars means that Fox is shut out of the major, major LA market.

It would seem to me that having two LA teams would serve the league well. That way both CBS and Fox get LA along with NY. And if you wanted to make it a three way deal, add an AFC to Chicago to go along with the Bears and putting it on par with NY and LA.

NY, B/W, and the Bay Area have two teams each, so Fox and CBS are established in all three. No reason why the two networks couldn't benefit from adding LA and Chicago to the mix. Both cities could support two teams.
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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OK. So Farmers Field is probably as much of a done deal as it could be. LA will have an NFL stadium. Now it needs a team. Or two. The question is: which will it be.

Look. The market will have a huge part in answering the question. I don't think the NFL is looking to expand. And the market will most likely dish up The Los Angeles Jaguars. Jacksonville just can't support the team.

But does the NFL really want just one team in the nation's second biggest market? Does the league want LA to be like NY? LA is not a bad football town and there were reasons why the Rams and Raiders left at the same time which do not relate to the the city and its fans.

The NFL operates with two prime networks: CBS for the AFC and Fox for the NFC. It seems to me that if there is one LA team, one of those two networks gets screwed. The LA Jaguars means that Fox is shut out of the major, major LA market.

It would seem to me that having two LA teams would serve the league well. That way both CBS and Fox get LA along with NY. And if you wanted to make it a three way deal, add an AFC to Chicago to go along with the Bears and putting it on par with NY and LA.

NY, B/W, and the Bay Area have two teams each, so Fox and CBS are established in all three. No reason why the two networks couldn't benefit from adding LA and Chicago to the mix. Both cities could support two teams.
In 2012 Jacksonville was 20th in averge home attendence and 17th in percent of capacity (of 32 teams). That with a 2-14 record.
Seems like Jacksonville supports its team more than many others.
D@mn facts!!!

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Old 06-01-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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OK. So Farmers Field is probably as much of a done deal as it could be. LA will have an NFL stadium....
Farmers Field is dead, in case you missed the news...

AEG non-sale is bad news for Farmers Field and NFL in L.A. - Los Angeles Times

"Like so many NFL stadium proposals in Southern California over the past two decades, Farmers Field too is history."
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Farmers Field is dead, in case you missed the news...

AEG non-sale is bad news for Farmers Field and NFL in L.A. - Los Angeles Times

"Like so many NFL stadium proposals in Southern California over the past two decades, Farmers Field too is history."
thanks; i didn't have any idea. i would imagine though if an NFL team wanted to move to LA that plans like it would be revived.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:50 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I like how LA isn't giving in to the NFL. The NFL has turned into a giant and IMO has kinda made it less cool. Los Angeles has a great football tradition already and not having a team in the NFL doesn't hurt LA's standing as one of our greatest cities.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I like how LA isn't giving in to the NFL. The NFL has turned into a giant and IMO has kinda made it less cool. Los Angeles has a great football tradition already and not having a team in the NFL doesn't hurt LA's standing as one of our greatest cities.
I agree. In fact, I think the reverse would be true: the NFL is horribly hurt by not having a team(s) in Los Angeles. For crying out loud, Fox TV broadcasts of the NFL eminate from LA. Way, way back in the day, MLB may have been credited with making LA "major league" along with SF when the Dodgers and Giants moved west.

Today, it would be more like LA making the NFL "major league" by having that LA franchise.

And the very fact that LA doesn't have a team and is blasse about it, not skipping a beat, shows you how major and secure of an alpha city it is.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Think about it though. California already has three NFL teams. How many more teams does one state need? To be honest, I wish the NFL had never expanded after the 80's.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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the OP's putting wayyy too much though in this, because NY and Bay area each have NFC/AFC teams if LA only gets one team either or of the networks is SOL?

I blame the modern media for this, constant talking about ratings, metro size, t.v. markets size, fans talking about a putative finals and if said teams are not big markets how that might effect t.v. ratings....

who gives a ********?

if you're a fan of the game -- WATCH

and the NFL has done fabulously well for not having a team in LA. Fabulously. How much bigger could the NFL get?

I'm not bagging on LA but lets face it, it's not a passionate sports market , just because it's a big city won't , especially if it's a relocated/expansion team, necessitate throngs of LA'ers to the stadium to watch a new team.

overthinking, I think.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:08 PM
 
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I'm not bagging on LA but lets face it, it's not a passionate sports market ,
Have you been in L.A.?

Those thousands of USC flags flying outside of thousands of houses are not there because USC has a great English department. If the NFL puts a team in L.A. and that team wins those same fans will be flying *NameThatNFLTeam* flags. And buying tickets and jerseys and hats.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Think about it though. California already has three NFL teams. How many more teams does one state need? To be honest, I wish the NFL had never expanded after the 80's.
I suppose you could say that having the Chargers in the vicinity might serve the LA market, but that would be a stretch.

the idea that the Bay Area, 49ers, and Raiders have anything to do with a city some 500 or so miles away except sharing the same long, long state makes no sense what-so-ever.

States have nothing to do with pro-sports representation. Cities and metro areas do. New York state has only one football team, the Buffalo Bills. Do you suppose they represent NYC?
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