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Old 04-18-2014, 09:53 PM
 
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Found this when looking at Mother Jones yesterday....Only 44 of the last 67 Mass Shooters have been White (66%) which is nothing out of the ordinary when you consider that White Males are about 70 percent of the Male population and women don't do mass shootings at all. I was under the impression that this was a mostly White Male phenomenon but it doesn't look like it is in reality. Seems all races have done it at about the same rate despite the stereotype. It's a male phenomenon not a White Male phenomenon. Not to mention this chart is NOT including the latest Fort Hood Shooting which involved a Hispanic Male (Ivan Lopez) so in reality their should be an extra tally in the Hispanic Male column. Their was also a recent shooting at a Mall in Maryland (Columbia Mall) that involved a Black Shooter and it wasn't put on this list.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013...e-aaron-alexis

Once again Liberal nonsense proves to be factually inaccurate.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Yeah, white males do seem to commit the majority of mass shootings, but people shouldn't let the stereotype blind them into thinking it's only white males. Doing so is just as stupid as thinking all common, everyday murders are committed by black males.
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Old 04-25-2014, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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Agreed. It's a male problem in general, not necessarily a white male problem. If 80% or more of these shootings were committed by white males, then it might be safe to say otherwise, but not so much in this case.
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Old 04-25-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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Leftists were trying to say this was some uniquely White Male problem that needs to be addressed just because TWO freaking people (James Holmes and Adam Lanza) did mass shootings. Since when did 2 people mean anything??? It's 2 damn people for Christ Sake....There are literally millions upon millions of White Males in American, but since 2 people did dramatic violent crimes it's a huge issue.....White Males are very unrepresented in Violent Crime and Homicides and only averagely represented in Mass Shootings (they commit an equal amount of Mass Shootings as their per capita population would suggest)

Meanwhile Blacks Males are 15 percent of the Male Population yet commit greater than 50 percent of all homicides....And it's White Males that have a violence problem that needs to be addressed??? Lmao typical liberal bull****.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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Leftists were trying to say this was some uniquely White Male problem that needs to be addressed just because TWO freaking people (James Holmes and Adam Lanza) did mass shootings. Since when did 2 people mean anything??? It's 2 damn people for Christ Sake....There are literally millions upon millions of White Males in American, but since 2 people did dramatic violent crimes it's a huge issue.....White Males are very unrepresented in Violent Crime and Homicides and only averagely represented in Mass Shootings (they commit an equal amount of Mass Shootings as their per capita population would suggest)

Meanwhile Blacks Males are 15 percent of the Male Population yet commit greater than 50 percent of all homicides....And it's White Males that have a violence problem that needs to be addressed??? Lmao typical liberal bull****.
Indeed. The non-Hispanic white male population is just over 97,000,000, according to the most recent census estimate, so a few guys who happen to be of European descent going out and shooting up a public area isn't enough to claim mass shootings as a "white male problem". Even when you take into account all of the mass shootings since the early 1900s, they are still very few and far in between compared to other violent crimes.

Several more people fall victim to forcible rape, aggravated assault, and armed robbery/burglary per year in the US than all the victims of mass shootings combined. Hell, more people are murdered in Chicago alone per year than the number of people who die to annual shootings, yet no one gives a crap because most of those murders are gang-related (mainly black and Hispanic) and are seen as normal by a lot of people. Yet when a white guy goes on a shooting spree, people start bringing up the state of the country's mental health care system.

Mass shootings only get widespread media coverage because they're both high profile and rare compared to other violent crimes, but of course the media likes to make them seem more common by sensationalizing it. It's sick that the media treats these crimes like it's a game, where everyone only knows how many people died and the name of the perpetrator; the names of victims are rarely, if at all, known to the general public unless people decide to research the shooting on the Internet.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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It's not correct that "women don't do mass shootings at all."
Those of us in the Philadelphia region remember Sylvia Seegrist, who opened fire in a mall, killing 3 and wounding several others in 1985.

Sylvia Seegrist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Folks,

In the interest of accuracy (pardon the term) the "lone white male gunman" thingy didn't come from the Political Left. In truth, it came from the FBI Behavioral Science Unit (now known as the Behavioral Research and Instruction Unit)!

Please understand that I'm not casting aspersions on the FBI. Their Behavioral unit collects, analyzes and and uses the data available to them. It was founded in 1972, so it only has a little more than 40 years of data about extremely-rare phenomena.

The Behavioral Science Unit's "lone white male" profile was decimated by the Beltway Sniper case in 2002. It turned out that the Beltway Sniper wasn't one person, but a team of two. Neither was white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

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-- Nighteyes
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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So...I'm trying to get something clear. Crime statistics by race are ok now? We can talk about them? Or no?
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:55 PM
 
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I do suspect there's something about the psychological makeup of a lot of white guys that makes them more prone to mass shootings. Whereas the black male shooters we see in the news everyday, I think, are generally aggressive people who when committing shootings are only slightly peaking in aggression, along with being much more targeted, the mass shooter type of white male seems to be generally non-aggressive who when committing shootings are majorly peaking in aggression. It seems white males of the variety who are likely to do mass shootings let tension build up - perhaps subconsciously or semi-consciously and maybe with it also causing or at least adding to their seeming delusional state - before going out and attacking.

Edit: I said I suspect a lot of white guys have a particular psychological makeup that might make them more prone to being mass shooters, and I believe that, but I'm now wondering if the "white" part might just be a strong correlation with something else that is behind that psychological make up. In other words, maybe the majority in this country who are prone to have such a psychological makeup are white, but there are likely guys of different races who have similar psychological make ups for the similar reasons, whatever they might be (environment, upbringing, social class, social skills, fitting in easily or not, etc.).

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Old 04-26-2014, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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... but I'm now wondering if the "white" part might just be a strong correlation with something else that is behind that psychological make up. In other words, maybe the majority in this country who are prone to have such a psychological makeup are white, but there are likely guys of different races who have similar psychological make ups for the similar reasons, whatever they might be (environment, upbringing, social class, social skills, fitting in easily or not, etc.).
What I think you're suggesting is that certain non-genetic environmental factors may combine to help create these people. If so, I agree. It is unlikely that there is only unique combination -- we should be so lucky! No, more likely there are several. And I'm fairly certain that certain inherited characteristics, e.g. an extremely low anger/frustration tolerance level, may also be necessary.

-- Nighteyes
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