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Well probably, but I am not sure about that "Alpha female - Beta male" combination. ( Never looked into those things closely, really, but my perception is the same as yours here; for me both Madonna and Tyra Banks represent the image of Alpha females, ( Hillary Clinton too by the way.)
Hillary ?? I dont see it...I like Hilary Clinton and she was my pick before Obama. I did vote for Obama over McCain, but I wanted Hillary in because I really like Bill. Alpha Female-Bata Male....Kim K and her lame nba x....Oprah and that lame pushover Stedman, Madonna and all here lil foreign model boy toys, J.LO and her back up dancer collection, Tyra Banks and her invisible male friends WE NEVER see that "Keep her Pleased"...then we have Beyonce who is actually a good woman but makes Alpha Female theme songs.
Someone said Halle Barry, but she is no alpha...she is a nutty attractive female, but no alpha. Queen Latifah...is an Alpha Female as well....we never see any of her lovers.
That's right, it's mostly about "admire my a***" scene and occasional hissing if things don't go right, but that still doesn't make Leo an Alpha-female.
Even if she can be "kind and caring" and yada-yada, she is still not a driving force in spite of her impressive presence.
It's what she does that counts. Will you stand in front of a man with all his might throwing a baseball or softball at you? Can you even hit it? How about the display of dominance she was doing on the race track with me, her own brother. I won, but it was very hard to do and a challenge. She always puts up a fight.
Hillary ?? I dont see it...I like Hilary Clinton and she was my pick before Obama.
No woman ( being non-alpha female) would run for president as far as I'm concerned.
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"Alpha Female-Bata Male....Kim K and her lame nba x....Oprah and that lame pushover Stedman, Madonna and all here lil foreign model boy toys, J.LO and her back up dancer collection, Tyra Banks and her invisible male friends WE NEVER see that "Keep her Pleased"...then we have Beyonce who is actually a good woman but makes Alpha Female theme songs.
Someone said Halle Barry, but she is no alpha...she is a nutty attractive female, but no alpha. Queen Latifah...is an Alpha Female as well....we never see any of her lovers."
Halle Barry is no alpha... she is way too typical for a Leo, so a lot of drama but no driving force)))
Now Madonna is a different story. (Don't know enough about the rest of them, but queen Latifah - yes, probably, from what I saw.)
oh yea?? Wow I never knew Halle Berry was a feminist. She just seems like a nutty girl, but not one of those crazy feminist that hate men and wish us all dead. She always seems to have a boyfriend here and there...but I guess you never know. Thanks for the update. I still think she should not have done monsters ball but...thats another topic.
She does work that helps women that endure and have endured domestic violence. With that said, I'm a feminist and happen to love men. I love my husband, my dad, my best male friend, and my late twin brother. I expend quite a bit of energy on the men in my life. Don't apply whatever f*cked up, ignorant crap you have in your head, culture, and life with feminists in general. We don't need or want it.
Hillary ?? I dont see it...I like Hilary Clinton and she was my pick before Obama.
Do you know anything about her, her accomplishments, what she is and has been up to (as well as for any of the women you have mentioned), to see anything?
No woman ( being non-alpha female) would run for president as far as I'm concerned.
"Alpha Female-Bata Male....Kim K and her lame nba x....Oprah and that lame pushover Stedman, Madonna and all here lil foreign model boy toys, J.LO and her back up dancer collection, Tyra Banks and her invisible male friends WE NEVER see that "Keep her Pleased"...then we have Beyonce who is actually a good woman but makes Alpha Female theme songs.
Someone said Halle Barry, but she is no alpha...she is a nutty attractive female, but no alpha. Queen Latifah...is an Alpha Female as well....we never see any of her lovers."
Halle Barry is no alpha... she is way too typical for a Leo, so a lot ofdrama but no driving force)))
Now Madonna is a different story. (Don't know enough about the rest of them, but queen Latifah - yes, probably, from what I saw.)
The comment I always love is "watch this". Nothing is handed to you here. You'll have to earn it and fight for it. No free passes for a "ratchet jaw".
"Alpha Female-Bata Male....Kim K and her lame nba x....Oprah and that lame pushover Stedman, Madonna and all here lil foreign model boy toys, J.LO and her back up dancer collection, Tyra Banks and her invisible male friends WE NEVER see that "Keep her Pleased"...then we have Beyonce who is actually a good woman but makes Alpha Female theme songs. Someone said Halle Barry, but she is no alpha...she is a nutty attractive female, but no alpha. Queen Latifah...is an Alpha Female as well....we never see any of her lovers."
Oprah knocked Phil Donahue out of that market niche, because she swooped down on the SAH audience that looked at her as someone who said "that's ok" and handed them tissue, because she is black, because she has weight issues, and because she admits to sexual trauma. Why hasn't she married Stedman? He's another puppet. Phil Donahue, with his quick wit, sarcasm, corporate look, Notre Dame education, and the trademark "I don't have much time," was light years ahead of Oprah, not to mention better at what he did. He lacked empathy and wasn't namby-pamby. Oprah's empathy is feigned. She sees dollar bills.
When I think of Madonna, two words come to mind: casting couch. She is manipulative and has admitted it. Seriously, to climb your way out of a working-class suburb of Detroit and dropping out of U of M, she had to have some big cajones to get where she was going. Any dude that fathers her children is nothing more than a sperm donor and knows that he can bank on coin for the rest of his life because her income stream is so superior to his.
Halle Barry may have done this and that. So what? She's no alpha. She's just another movie star. Like someone said, she's an alpha at stirring up drama.
She does work that helps women that endure and have endured domestic violence. With that said, I'm a feminist and happen to love men. I love my husband, my dad, my best male friend, and my late twin brother. I expend quite a bit of energy on the men in my life. Don't apply whatever f*cked up, ignorant crap you have in your head, culture, and life with feminists in general. We don't need or want it.
Oprah knocked Phil Donahue out of that market niche, because she swooped down on the SAH audience that looked at her as someone who said "that's ok" and handed them tissue, because she is black, because she has weight issues, and because she admits to sexual trauma. Why hasn't she married Stedman? He's another puppet. Phil Donahue, with his quick wit, sarcasm, corporate look, Notre Dame education, and the trademark "I don't have much time," was light years ahead of Oprah, not to mention better at what he did. He lacked empathy and wasn't namby-pamby. Oprah's empathy is feigned. She sees dollar bills.
When I think of Madonna, two words come to mind: casting couch. She is manipulative and has admitted it. Seriously, to climb your way out of a working-class suburb of Detroit and dropping out of U of M, she had to have some big cajones to get where she was going. Any dude that fathers her children is nothing more than a sperm donor and knows that he can bank on coin for the rest of his life because her income stream is so superior to his.
Halle Barry may have done this and that. So what? She's no alpha. She's just another movie star. Like someone said, she's an alpha at stirring up drama.
How many posts and threads have been made by men telling other men to NEVER EVER get married if they have any assets, money or success? They go on and on and on and on about how women will get half and they'll get sent to the poor house so never marry and NEVER have children. Now, when a smart, successful woman decides to share her life with a man (ie Oprah and Stedman) and not get married, she's questioned for it? Perhaps she's trying to manage her finances and doesn't want the legality of marriage getting in the way. Could you imagine that prenup? Sheesh, I probably wouldn't get married if I were her either. They seem perfectly happy with each other so who is anyone else to sit around and judge their relationship? I've met Oprah a few times and she honestly seems like a decent person. She used to own a restaurant in my area and flew into the airport I worked at, both her and Emeril Lagasse used to bring us cookies and treats whenever they came in, and both of them were always so nice and gracious.
As for Madonna, I don't know much about her to be honest, I've never really liked her or her music. She seems like a user and abuser though, and while that may have some alpha female traits, being a ***** for the sake of being a ***** doesn't cut it in my book.
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