I'm ANGRY that smoking kills.. (generation, adult, everything, addiction)

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by IwalkLikeArabbit

Because I smoke.

and I'm not quitting. I just really, really "like" it... I mean, I feel a need to apologize???

To society.


So, SORRY society, but I'm gonna keep smoking... I don't have kids, maybe I just won't further on .. and take myself as a loss.

But, the point is, I HATE those anti smoking commercials, because, A) it's depressing, I hate that 'tone' especially at dinner time when they so often come on, and B) For us who commits to it, we might actually be some decent people you in society don't wanna annoy and **** off so much?!?!? Cause, I'm not 'blaming' those ads for making me like this. I have other issues... it's just, when that ad comes on I gotta switch the channel and yeah, it's just one of "many" things that come on TV or ads that just ticks me off... Like, a need to "control" us. Even if it's good. Like mommy and daddy. What is hollywood, our parents????


Why aren't our real parents telling us??? I don't wanna see no chick with a hole in her throat while I'm eating dinner.


I have my mommy to tell me that....???



She told me when I was 8... I heard it. I chose to smoke anyway, but I don't need to see that hole.

It's not going to change me.


It's only going to add depression, and bad vibes to dinner time.... ?!


Whew... Thank you, I just had to let that out. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but, now I feel better....

I don't smoke, and never have, but I somewhat agree with you.

I too find that the drumbeat against smokers is a bit obnoxious, and I state this with no smokers at all in my immediate family.

I also find that the second hand smoke health issue is greatly exaggerated, causing more resentment against smokers. Out here in California, the number of commercials showing the evils of second hand smoke is rather remarkable. This week, we have a ballot measure about adding $1 tax per pack of cigarettes to discourage teenage smoking. The commercials basically dare you to side with "big tobacco" against the American Cancer Society, American Lung Association and American Heart Association.

Very obnoxious, and helps cause significant resentment (often displayed in public) towards smokers.

[Grandstander]

I think I understand the impulse which drove the OP.

It is a matter of fairness. I would not try to defend smoking as any sort of good, but an atmosphere has been established which makes it perpetually open season for expressions of contempt for smokers. The unfair part is that this singles out one segment of society afflcited with a particular flaw, while leaving others untouched.

Smoking is a serious health risk, but so is obesity. Tomorrow Californians go to the polls and among measures being considered is Prop 29 which adds a dollar of taxes per pack, with the funds raised from this new tax supposedly going for cancer research. This is the third such specialized California tax on tobacco in the last decade and a half. Presently 50% of the cost of a pack of cigraettes in this state comes from taxes. I am confident that the new measure wil pass because non smokers will look at it the same way any of us look at any tax which falls on people other than ourselves. That view is.."Great, I get to keep my money and instead get whatever benefit arises from the money being taken from the smokers."

But what if we applied this sort of thinking to overweight people? They certainly generate health problems at a far higher rate than do non obese persons. If we tax target smokers under the theory that they are responsible for creating extra health costs, why aren't we also placing a dollar a package taxes on Little Debbie products? Why isn't there a a dollar a Happy Meal tax or a dollar per six pack tax on soda pop?

The answer of course is that there are far more fat people than there are smokers. It is the tyrany of the majority..let us make the smokers pay for the health problems generated by our undisciplined overeating.

So, can you really blame smokers for feeling like they are being picked upon? Made into special societal pariahs while others just as guilty of creating health problems, are left untouched and uncriticized?

Just think what it would be like if the obese were subject to the sort of public campaign of contempt and tax burderns which is now directed at smokers. They would be screaming bloody murder and demanding PC protection....they aren't fat, they are digestively challenged.

[nurider2002]

Now you've gone and done it! I've got that old dramarama tune, "last cigarette" stuck in my head, "i know it's killin me, yeah, I know it's killin me, just give me what I need, last cigarette, one before I go to bed".

don't smoke but still like that tune.
and yeah, they WILL kill you. sorry.

[Dale Cooper]

Originally Posted by MsAnnThrope

Ask all of those anti-smokers if they have a gun in their home.

People still insist on the "right to bear arms" even though it is CLEARLY not the best thing for society, or in fact individuals.

However, they will fight tooth and claw for this right.

It is an analogy to me...the right of the individual in America outweighs the better good - always has done...so none of these hypocrites has a leg to stand on.

You smoke because you live in a free country where it is your RIGHT to die by lung cancer (or friendly fire) if you so choose.

Balderdash!!!!!

I was a heavy smoker for 45 years. When the Idiot In Chief signed SCHIP, I switched to vaping. I enjoy it very much. I still smoke maybe 4-6 cigarettes a day (as opposed to the 2+ packs per day I used to smoke), and I make no apologies for it, but seriously, vaping is as good.

[Chango]

Originally Posted by IwalkLikeArabbit

Because I smoke.

and I'm not quitting. I just really, really "like" it... I mean, I feel a need to apologize???

To society.


So, SORRY society, but I'm gonna keep smoking... I don't have kids, maybe I just won't further on .. and take myself as a loss.

But, the point is, I HATE those anti smoking commercials, because, A) it's depressing, I hate that 'tone' especially at dinner time when they so often come on, and B) For us who commits to it, we might actually be some decent people you in society don't wanna annoy and **** off so much?!?!? Cause, I'm not 'blaming' those ads for making me like this. I have other issues... it's just, when that ad comes on I gotta switch the channel and yeah, it's just one of "many" things that come on TV or ads that just ticks me off... Like, a need to "control" us. Even if it's good. Like mommy and daddy. What is hollywood, our parents????


Why aren't our real parents telling us??? I don't wanna see no chick with a hole in her throat while I'm eating dinner.


I have my mommy to tell me that....???



She told me when I was 8... I heard it. I chose to smoke anyway, but I don't need to see that hole.

It's not going to change me.


It's only going to add depression, and bad vibes to dinner time.... ?!


Whew... Thank you, I just had to let that out. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but, now I feel better....

It's an annoying syndrome our society has... telling other people what we think they should/shouldn't do about almost everything! So puff away guilt-free; it's your right, so long as you aren't blowing smoke in my face.

[nightcrawler]

I never understood the need for smoking. It smells terrible, it to me doesn't taste good, (obviously I have smoked one or two, maybe three). But it is not something I would want to do all day, every day, if ever at all.


I always hated the line : Ok, after this cigaret....ugh, that was so annoying.

Dad, can we play ball now, Ok, after this cigaret.

Mom, can we make cookies now, OK, after this cigaret.


I never wanted to be a person that couldn't do a thing until after a cigaret.
I just think they get in the way of everything.

I even hated watching people smoke on the TV from movies back in that day, it always looked so annoying and bothersome.

ugh,

[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by looking4answers12

I'm not offended, but this is one of the few times in my life that I really cannot feel empathy for another persons unhappiness.

Not smoking is your choice. It's a dumb choice in my opinion, but I believe in everyone's right to make dumb choices.

It just makes me a bit sad and irritated when people can't comprehend that their dumb choices affect more than just themselves. Even the people that respect their dumb choices are still affected.

I don't know what type of family relationships you have, but even if your mom respects your dumb choice to smoke, guess who's gonna be the idiot by your hospital bed holding your hand when you get sick from smoking?

So, as far as the commercials go, and the fact that they bother you? Oh well.
I know there are now "no smoking restaurants - or sections or whatever, but think of all those years that those folks who choose to smoke (and it's my life I can do what I want) failed to care about people smoking next to them at dinner time....

If the commercials bother you at dinner, don't watch TV at dinnertime. Enjoy your meal with your ciggy and the sound of your ragged breath and hacking cough.

Bon Apetit!

I don't smoke but I'd love to see some commercials on the health problems caused by alcohol; you know a diseased liver, etc.

Edit: I get sick of the commercials on smoking yet none on the other killer, alcohol.

[Weatherfan2]

You don't offend me. You aren't sorry because otherwise you wouldn't do it. In fact anybody who says I'm sorry BUT... is lying.

Unlike many people here I won't bother to express my disgust for the filthy habit and will simply add that, yes keep on doing it, as long as it doesn't affect anybody else in any way whatsoever, whether that be taxpayers, or relatives (when you get cancer or emphysema) and let's hope you're man enough to face the consequences as they happen. Good luck!

[rudegubmintworker]

Turning off the "idiot box" every now and then might help. You don't have to be watching television every moment you are awake and have free time.

Everybody has a right to "go out" the way they see fit. As long as you are obeying laws, not smoking in public places where it's banned because other people don't want to have to breathe that ****, then more power to you and your addiction.

[cpg35223]

Originally Posted by IwalkLikeArabbit

Because I smoke.

and I'm not quitting. I just really, really "like" it... I mean, I feel a need to apologize???

To society.


So, SORRY society, but I'm gonna keep smoking... I don't have kids, maybe I just won't further on .. and take myself as a loss.

But, the point is, I HATE those anti smoking commercials, because, A) it's depressing, I hate that 'tone' especially at dinner time when they so often come on, and B) For us who commits to it, we might actually be some decent people you in society don't wanna annoy and **** off so much?!?!? Cause, I'm not 'blaming' those ads for making me like this. I have other issues... it's just, when that ad comes on I gotta switch the channel and yeah, it's just one of "many" things that come on TV or ads that just ticks me off... Like, a need to "control" us. Even if it's good. Like mommy and daddy. What is hollywood, our parents????


Why aren't our real parents telling us??? I don't wanna see no chick with a hole in her throat while I'm eating dinner.


I have my mommy to tell me that....???



She told me when I was 8... I heard it. I chose to smoke anyway, but I don't need to see that hole.

It's not going to change me.


It's only going to add depression, and bad vibes to dinner time.... ?!


Whew... Thank you, I just had to let that out. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but, now I feel better....

That's nice.

Now that you've gotten that off your chest, let me get this off mine.

Do not tell us how you do not intend to quit smoking and then, by using Medicare or Medicaid for treatment, ask me to pay for it. Thanks.