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The IMF and World Bank both came out of the Bretton Woods Conference in 1944 and weren't founded until 1944/1945. The Holocaust was in full swing long before then. So how could Hitler have been going against the IMF and World Bank in, say, 1943 when they didn't even exist?
Oh, but he "cross-referenced data" and "uncovered" the "fact" that it wasn't millions of Jews who died (as well as millions of others). But he's "just saying."
NOT in the millions of Jews? Are you using Stormfront "references"? Where exactly are you getting your "data"?
You sound like a Holocaust denier yourself. Just saying.
No Stormfront references just logic and science and history.
Do you honestly believe the Holocaust, the Jews alone, was in the millions? I hope not, if that was the case don't you think the Jews would be extinct? It's really just revised history.
No Stormfront references just logic and science and history.
Do you honestly believe the Holocaust, the Jews alone, was in the millions? I hope not, if that was the case don't you think the Jews would be extinct? It's really just revised history.
Absolutely appalling. "Logic and science and history"? You clearly ARE a Holocaust denier.
I would suggest taking a legitimate history course but clearly Stormfront and similar "sources" are good enough for you.
No Stormfront references just logic and science and history.
Do you honestly believe the Holocaust, the Jews alone, was in the millions? I hope not, if that was the case don't you think the Jews would be extinct? It's really just revised history.
Your logic is flawed. Your science has been debunked and your history is just that, revisionist.
Yes, every expert, with credibility of course, has come to the conclusion, during the Holocaust of WWII, anywhere from 5.8 to 6.2 million Jews were massacred. In the beginning, most were shot. This, however was found to be difficult to keep up with and had a psychological fallout on the SS Guards committing mass murder.
After which, the Jews (amongst others, although it was primarily jews) were rounded up, placed into ghettos, then slowly moved to Death Camps. Where they were gassed and cremated after.
Now, you can deny whatever you want, however the facts speak for themselves. If you want to continue to be an ignorant, racist, buffoon, so be it. No one here is going to change your mind; your hatred has clouded any judgement.
To the others, one of the best, if not the best, internet site on Holocaust Denial is the Nizkor Project. I suggest you spend some time reading through its pages.
There are a couple of reasons to denounce the "Holocaust" with a capital H.
The first is the meaning of the word holocaust has religious significance. Holocaust- A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames. This suggests that there was a purpose for this meaningless crime.
Second it causes people to treat the jewish people of today as victims. Victims generally feel that revenge is justified and can result in heinous crimes being committed against others.
This was a genocide and should be referred to as such, Holocaust is an inappropriate name.
I think some of you people are very young. The attempted annihilation of the Jews wasn't generally called "The Holocaust" until a TV movie of that name came out back in the 1970s. The movie title then got picked up and used as a general reference. I wouldn't go reading too deeply into the term.
I had dinner with a friend last night, and we were just talking about how when we were kids we both knew of delis or stores owned by Jews who still had their numbers tattooed on their arms. Do the deniers think that these people had that done just to perpetuate the story while they went about their business of making brisket on rye sandwiches?
Originally Posted by HoodsofATL Cross-reference data and you'll see those numbers were not in the million of "Jews" but people as in other ethnicities and races and religions.
Even if we follow your logic that they were mixed with other groups, it still doesn't change the fact that Jews were used as a target to rally people together to blame them for all their woes even though before the war started there were only 240,000 (out of 68.8 Million) in Germany. The Holocaust of the Jews is because they were the main theme of the war and not the total quantity of people who died during the war which is estimated on the low end of 38 Million people.
Even if we follow your logic that they were mixed with other groups, it still doesn't change the fact that Jews were used as a target to rally people together to blame them for all their woes even though before the war started there were only 240,000 (out of 68.8 Million) in Germany. The Holocaust of the Jews is because they were the main theme of the war and not the total quantity of people who died during the war which is estimated on the low end of 38 Million people.
No, Jews were not the main theme of the War, it was Axis Powers vs Allies Powers, even though it was generally just a big ass World War with all superpower contenders in the mix... Money rules the world, and you know the rest.
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Originally Posted by Phil306
Your logic is flawed. Your science has been debunked and your history is just that, revisionist.
Yes, every expert, with credibility of course, has come to the conclusion, during the Holocaust of WWII, anywhere from 5.8 to 6.2 million Jews were massacred. In the beginning, most were shot. This, however was found to be difficult to keep up with and had a psychological fallout on the SS Guards committing mass murder.
After which, the Jews (amongst others, although it was primarily jews) were rounded up, placed into ghettos, then slowly moved to Death Camps. Where they were gassed and cremated after.
Now, you can deny whatever you want, however the facts speak for themselves. If you want to continue to be an ignorant, racist, buffoon, so be it. No one here is going to change your mind; your hatred has clouded any judgement.
To the others, one of the best, if not the best, internet site on Holocaust Denial is the Nizkor Project. I suggest you spend some time reading through its pages.
Though I have evidence and proof of my claims and you have yours, neither one of us will agree that the other is right. You label me an "ignorant, racist buffoon" because there is monumental evidence backing my claims. If you can't open your eyes objectively to understand and rather discuss the events that went on, no rebuttal is needed. You notice every other even can be revised in history but any argument against the claims of the Holocaust is automatically denial. Why is that?
Now, to his credit, I suppose I would have to admit that I've never personally 'seen' any direct evidence.
but this is the delusional logic that the Christians often say for the existence of Jesus - ie: 'you weren't there 2000 yrs ago so how can you say it isn't true'.
is this what it's all about then?
ie: wanting to glorify the Nazi ideology so much, as a form of God, that all the negativity must be washed away - with a simple denial.
seems a little absurd, especially considering there is a ton of evidence.
thoughts?
You contradict yourself. You need to do your research. Find the evidence, as in - documents and such - or do NOT be able to find it, and then make up YOUR mind on this subject.
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