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OP - Ask the mods to move this to the Relationships board. This topic will take off there.
I have brought this up a few times over there and never got a satisfactory answer. Sorry ocnjgirl, nice try. I'm for things being equal between the sexes and that includes dating.
IRL I have never been approached and asked for my phone number for an actual date and I have been single and unattached for 30 years of my adult life. Hope is fading fast that I will ever experience what that is like.
OP - Ask the mods to move this to the Relationships board. This topic will take off there.
I have brought this up a few times over there and never got a satisfactory answer. Sorry ocnjgirl, nice try. I'm for things being equal between the sexes and that includes dating.
IRL I have never been approached and asked for my phone number for an actual date and I have been single and unattached for 30 years of my adult life. Hope is fading fast that I will ever experience what that is like.
There is nothing preventing you from approaching on your own except fear. We all feel fear and self-doubt, the people who succeed in getting what they want are those who choose to act despite their fear.
Not sure what you mean by "nice try". I am not arguing whether human nature is fair or unfair (usually nature is not, in general fair, though, some gazelles get eaten and others escape), only trying to explain why women feel this way, as the OP asked.
There is nothing preventing you from approaching on your own except fear. We all feel fear and self-doubt, the people who succeed in getting what they want are those who choose to act despite their fear.
Not sure what you mean by "nice try". I am not arguing whether human nature is fair or unfair (usually nature is not, in general fair, though, some gazelles get eaten and others escape), only trying to explain why women feel this way, as the OP asked.
1st bolded- Nonsense. I do approach. I don't know where in the world you got that I don't.
Just not very often as it's mostly a waste of time.
2nd bolded - IMO you failed to address the question. I don't mean this as an attack but you came off as weak to me.
I like strong, independent women and I will be there to give support. I don't understand why they will go after most things in life but not ask a man out. I read that some do but it is apparent the percentage is very low.
1st bolded- Nonsense. I do approach. I don't know where in the world you got that I don't.
Just not very often as it's mostly a waste of time.
2nd bolded - IMO you failed to address the question. I don't mean this as an attack but you came off as weak to me.
I like strong, independent women and I will be there to give support. I don't understand why they will go after most things in life but not ask a man out. I read that some do but it is apparent the percentage is very low.
I explained it in great detail, you just don't like the answer.
What did I dodge? The question was why don't women approach men, I as well as others explained it's the way we are wired from a biological perspective. You are free to disagree with that answer, but your claim that I didn't answer it is unfounded.
i come from an upbringing that discouraged women from approaching men. Sure, i could change that mindset at any time, but i am comfortable with it. It may limit my options, but i'm ok with that.
Jesus, of course women don't usually approach men. Even the average male dullard cannot help but notice that even marginally attractive females get hit on all the time, and naturally they get their defenses up. They have lives to lead too, you know? And can't spend every waking moment attending to the hordes of horny males in attack formation.
So yes, they may seem stand-offish and who can blame them? Add to this the fact that even if a female is intrigued by the odd and attractive reticent male, as soon as she makes a move he'll assume she's a trollop. Always? No, not always--nothing is always, but this certainly describes the vast majority.
So try this: gather up your courage and then let it go. Lower the stakes, act civilized and respectful and right there you've distinguished yourself from most men. And as women know, you can work minor miracles with little more than a genuine smile.
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