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Old 10-18-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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I think most people that have been bullied would like to see a harsh punishment for these girls. And I also think bullies will think their punishment will be excessive.
I think bullying is learned. The parent of one of the girls thinks her daughter will get off. Let's hope not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us...wick.html?_r=0
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Yes, I am sure the girl bullies had some type of abuse in their lives that caused them to bully - but I don't feel sorry for them - they know what right and wrong is. I also think the fact that the dead girl was very pretty and the bullies were kinda ugly might have been a part of it since they were fighting over a boy.
The boy had dated the victim, and still had some affection for her but he was seeing one of the bullies when all this started. If that boy had gotten over the girl this might not have happened. This is assuming he wasn't seeing her on the sly when he was with the bully girl. The rules of dating are hard enough for older teens and adults. It's too much for immature 12-14 year olds.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The recent story about the 2 girl bullies driving another girl to suicide has really gotten under my craw. I was bullied in middle and high school - not that bad - but bullied just the same so I can relate to the dead girl. I see the faces of those girl bullies and just know for the rest of their lives they are going to be rotten bullies - I believe their evil personalities are already formed. I think most people that have been bullied would like to see a harsh punishment for these girls. And I also think bullies will think their punishment will be excessive. I don't think most bullies know they are bullies.
Your thoughts on this? Not sure I spelled bullies the right way - LOL
It's not so funny in context, but Louis CK has a joke that men or male bullies might beat you up, but women can destroy your soul.

It's also scary how difficult it is to get away from online bullying. It's relentless, and victims can't even get away from it by switching schools or staying home.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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I hope the parents file a wrongful death lawsuit.

I think parents should use the law (because schools don't do jack-diddly-squat). If they're child is being bullied, go to the police and press harassment charges. They should include money for all the therapy that their child will need. God forbid the bullying victim commits suicide, the parents should file a wrongful death lawsuit.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Girls who bully others as children probably do grow up to do it as adults. I see a total lack of human compassion in those girls. No empathy, no feelings... that's a tough one to overcome.

Looking back, I can remember when my wife was bullied by two women where she works. They were the same kind of people, they needed a victim and were cruel and hateful. My response would have been to call them out, she chose to change jobs.

I do love how this issue has gotten so much attention lately. The teachers in South Hadley, MA where the Irish girl was bullied, knew what was going on and did NOTHING to stop it. Hopefully that will not be tolerated in the future.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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what is usually the common root cause for a "mean girl"? and how do they pick targets?

is there a common thread between the different cases, like them taking after their mother?
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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The main bully in my previous story (at the workplace) was actually not a rotten person. She got along with most people and was popular because she had a good sense of humor. This was more than 15 years ago. I don't talk to her but I saw a facebook page with old pictures from that time and she made a mean comment about someone in a picture like "I hated that mf piece of ***". I don't remember the details but it was a very nasty comment. I think she has major anger issues, she still speaks like a high school student about someone she hasn't seen in more than 15 years. It was just not obvious to us back then because she was very likeble but I didn't agree with her bullying.

From what I remember she was a good person but when someone became a target, she wouldn't stop at anything. Maybe she was a borderline. I don't know, I know she wasn't a rotten person most of the time. I was her friend but I wasn't present when all this bullying took place(coincidence) She wasn't very attractive and had a rough life, she told me she was molested by her stepfather. Maybe that influenced her character and made her such angry person.
I experienced this well. I described this woman as an opportunist. She was nice to those she could benefit from and mean to those she couldn't. Did you get this impression from this woman?
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:49 AM
 
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I experienced this well. I described this woman as an opportunist. She was nice to those she could benefit from and mean to those she couldn't. Did you get this impression from this woman?
Honestly no, the bully was nice to almost everybody and was well liked. There were much easier targets like shy people with less friends. The first victim did get the main bully unecessarily in trouble and the bully just never forgave her for it. The second was a love triangle case, but the bullies didn't even know about the love triangle. One girl out of jealousy just poisoned them against the second victim.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:55 AM
 
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what is usually the common root cause for a "mean girl"? and how do they pick targets?

is there a common thread between the different cases, like them taking after their mother?
My Wife runs Anti-Bully/ Compassion groups in her school and needs to intervene in bullying situations regularly. Just like anything else related to children, her opinion is "Meet the parents and you'll understand", in most cases.
I had a few instances of bullying when I was younger, and they were unpleasant enough, for sure, but nothing compared to the two adult bully's Ive faced through the decades in different work situations. One was a man and one was a women, but both were relentless, obese and angry at the world even in off-time from their bullying hobby. I believe bully's pick passive targets based on my own personal observations.
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:44 AM
 
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Honestly no, the bully was nice to almost everybody and was well liked. There were much easier targets like shy people with less friends. The first victim did get the main bully unecessarily in trouble and the bully just never forgave her for it. The second was a love triangle case, but the bullies didn't even know about the love triangle. One girl out of jealousy just poisoned them against the second victim.
I see.

But I do see how it can be possible for the woman to perceive these people as having nothing to offer her so why be nice. Anyway, motivation is not easy to figure out.
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