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Old 12-21-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I agree with you. I think there are more bi women than bi men. Just my opinion.
I believe there are just as many men but since it's not as socially accepted it's still locked in the closet.

Women can be more out then many men.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Sorry, but every person is unique and regardless of their sexual orientation we all have varying levels of social skills with other people. We all know the straight guy who can't interact with women if his life depended on it. Does it turn him gay? I don't think so. Many gays are better at interacting with women than men because they are less judgemental typically. Does it turn us straight because other men are mean/cruel to us? No.
...and you have a mental issue that does not allow for you to think like a logical human being.
You're scaring me. I'm good with women, almost too good.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Yes, I think it does. That may be a valid explanation as to why someone would not come out and openly admit to being gay. But I don't think it explains why they would actually get involved in a romantic relationship with someone they have no interest in or attraction to, unless they are at least exploring. It's not like society dictates that every person must be involved in a relationship, or they are considered to be gay. Even many heterosexuals go well into their late teens before having their first romantic relationship. It's not like a gay teenager couldn't wait until they are ready to come out, to have a relationship.

Anyway, these days most high schools (except maybe in the south, or some rural areas) will have a few openly gay students. It's not like there is going to be enough stigma attached to being gay, to force some kid to have a heterosexual relationship that he is not interested in. Even if he are not ready to come out.
How many times do I/we have to explain that we enter relationships with women when we are young mostly because we are trying to deny our sexuality to OURSELVES. When I was 15 in 1997 I didnt think to myself (as you seem to assume) "hey im gay but im going to date a girl anyway because society is sort of accepting and there is an openly gay guy in my class who gets treated like ****!"

what was really going through my head was "oh **** i might be gay because i find guys hot, but girls are ok too so maybe im not gay? oh well i'll just date girls and see how it works out because it would be terrible to be gay"

I was young and horny, i wanted to have sex with anything and everything and I really wanted to be straight. Trying to analyze 15 year old boys' hormones is more complicated than you seem to think.

And as far as the older gay guys with women, that is mostly a thing of the past except in guys who stay in denial much longer than the rest of us.

Long story short: at that age we are so unsure and confused about what we are interested in so entering a relationship with a girl as a gay kid is pretty normal.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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Long story short: at that age we are so unsure and confused about what we are interested in so entering a relationship with a girl as a gay kid is pretty normal.
I have a gay son who's older partner was married early in his life.

As you know, many gay and lesbians were at one time married before they faced who they really are.
Many have kids from those marriages.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I have a gay son who's older partner was married early in his life.

As you know, many gay and lesbians were at one time married before they faced who they really are.
Many have kids from those marriages.
yes an unfortunately people like KaBoom are so short-sighted they automatically come to the conclusion that all these people were straight and suddenly turned gay. KaBoom can't seem to accept that maybe these people were always gay and trying to hide it or deny it to themselves despite all evidence that points to the hardships gay people face in this country and all over the world.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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maybe thats why he had bad luck with women,,,he was gay all along..
Bingo...I was patiently waiting for someone to post this.

Thanks!
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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I know a guy who had a series of failed relationships with women, and he's now with a guy. So apparently it does happen. But I think it's rare.
That's called bisexual and it's not all that rare...
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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How many times do I/we have to explain that we enter relationships with women when we are young mostly because we are trying to deny our sexuality to OURSELVES. When I was 15 in 1997 I didnt think to myself (as you seem to assume) "hey im gay but im going to date a girl anyway because society is sort of accepting and there is an openly gay guy in my class who gets treated like ****!"

what was really going through my head was "oh **** i might be gay because i find guys hot, but girls are ok too so maybe im not gay? oh well i'll just date girls and see how it works out because it would be terrible to be gay"

I was young and horny, i wanted to have sex with anything and everything and I really wanted to be straight. Trying to analyze 15 year old boys' hormones is more complicated than you seem to think.

And as far as the older gay guys with women, that is mostly a thing of the past except in guys who stay in denial much longer than the rest of us.

Long story short: at that age we are so unsure and confused about what we are interested in so entering a relationship with a girl as a gay kid is pretty normal.
I really believe this is as good as a synopsis can get on the matter.

She's like "Ben you've loved girls since before pre-k, trippin' "
Yeah, I guess she had a point, didn't she?
A preconceived idea of what it all meant
For those that liked the same sex
Had the characteristics

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Old 12-21-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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I think men in America are so homophobic and raised that way that they just can't fathom the fact that in some ways they can be curious about homosexual sex. Most men who are honest with themselves will realize that there has been one or two times they felt an odd attraction to another guy. Happened to me in college, never got past third base with a guy because it never felt right in the end, so that's when I knew that it just wasn't for me.

But for other guys, they may end up liking it and being bi or somewhat bi. Some may be happy with certain kinks when making love to their women. So I totally agree you aren't "just straight" or "just homosexual" ... there's a large spectrum of gray in there.

Goes the same way with women too. I know one woman who married for 16 years to a man and had four kids with him. After he started cheating on her and ended up divorcing her, she realized that she was kidding herself in that she was exclusive with men. She started dating women and within a few years found Mrs. Right and now they're happily married for over ten years, and her partner / wife has two kids of her own. She was completely content in both situations or so she says.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:03 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Yes, I think it does. That may be a valid explanation as to why someone would not come out and openly admit to being gay. But I don't think it explains why they would actually get involved in a romantic relationship with someone they have no interest in or attraction to, unless they are at least exploring. It's not like society dictates that every person must be involved in a relationship, or they are considered to be gay. Even many heterosexuals go well into their late teens before having their first romantic relationship. It's not like a gay teenager couldn't wait until they are ready to come out, to have a relationship.

Anyway, these days most high schools (except maybe in the south, or some rural areas) will have a few openly gay students. It's not like there is going to be enough stigma attached to being gay, to force some kid to have a heterosexual relationship that he is not interested in. Even if he are not ready to come out.
Apparently you don't follow news much, I don't mean this snarky, but the last few yrs there has been a few stories about kids in HS that were so distraught about how to deal with their feelings and being gay and living in situations where they didn't feel safe or comfortable and even some were out and out harassed by others where they committed suicide because of it, I don't have the exact count but have been hearing news stories like I've said, so it isn't as easy for some.

When I heard about young people committing suicide because of it, it really drove home the need to try and not let these kids suffer......
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