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I guess you could say Kurt Kobain was really selfish for killing himself and leaving his daughter behind. I mean, how must it feel: your mother did heroin while pregnant with you and your father ran out of rehab, did heroin, and then killed himself :-/.
It's easy to get that perception of talented, creative types.
I dont understand where that perception comes from . Just because someone's highly creative, it's ok for them to be a jerk? No. No way.
And why would artists and musicians be "better" (whatever that means) than a brilliant surgeon who saves lives daily, or a dedicated human rights lawyer, or a teacher who inspires her/his students?
Assuming we're ignoring artists like Mark Twain who probably genuinely influenced people to be better people and focusing more on artists whose artwork is more for entertainment value, or motivational value, or simple skill like Picaso's works....
I think the brilliant surgeon is on top insofar as doing good, and the dedicated human rights lawyer is below that but still pretty high...but I think the Beetles might be about the level of a teacher who inspires students. So would the band Gorillaz, Queen, and several others.
I'm pro anything that seems to make the world a better place, and artworks can do that. I'd rank Isaac Asimov as a better influence on society than any teacher I've had. Isaac Asimov shows what people are capable of with his books, simply by them being, in my opinion, written extremely well. After reading the Foundation series I thought: Wow, a human can do that. That's neat. That, to me, is far more motivational than the inspiration from any teacher I've had.
Also, certain music and writings and poetry add something to the world, I think.
Picasso though...most people don't even see his paintings, so who cares about him, and why would we?
OK, but does that give creative types the right to be jerks? "Oh, he's a creative genius, it comes with the territory."
Sorry, no free pass, imo. Everyone is held to the same standard, barring serious illness, or something.
I dont understand where that perception comes from . Just because someone's highly creative, it's ok for them to be a jerk? No. No way.
And why would artists and musicians be "better" (whatever that means) than a brilliant surgeon who saves lives daily, or a dedicated human rights lawyer, or a teacher who inspires her/his students?
It makes no sense.
Assuming we're ignoring artists like Dr. Seuss and Mark Twain who probably did influence people....
I think the Beetles are a better influence on society any teacher I've had. So was the writer Isaac Asimov and the band Queen and Gorillaz. Merely by doing a good job they add something to the world. They can also show what greatness humanity can have if we put our minds to it.
Mark Twain could have been more of a positive influence on society than most dedicated human rights lawyers though I'd bet...but no artist could top the surgeon.
Artists can add something to society simply by doing their works well. They add to our experience here on earth, if they've done their job well.
But, they do get free passes way too much.
One of my favorite artists is Lord. I like her music. She also bashes that most widely known type of rap music, where the artist spends all his/her time bragging about having way too much money to know what to do with, and spending it on garbage. I think she's not just focused on certain rap types though, but all music that encourages that "spend all your money on clothes and you can buy friends" type of mentality.
She's a sixteen year girl, and she's received death threats when she bashed some other female pop stars for being poor examples for young women. That is how crazy people get defending their beloved celebrities: They will make death threats to people who insult their beloved celebrity gods.
OK, but does that give creative types the right to be jerks? "Oh, he's a creative genius, it comes with the territory."
Sorry, no free pass, imo. Everyone is held to the same standard, barring serious illness, or something.
Absolutely not, and they get away with it way too often, and nobody cares. If you become a celebrity, you get to be immune to the rules that govern a civilized society that the rest of us lowly peasants must follow.
I guess you could say Kurt Kobain was really selfish for killing himself and leaving his daughter behind. I mean, how must it feel: your mother did heroin while pregnant with you and your father ran out of rehab, did heroin, and then killed himself :-/.
So you think Kurt Cobain killed himself because he felt "better" than other people....I don't think so.
I'm constantly surprised when I talk to people that are shocked when they find oiut that their favorite actor/singer/writer/musician/artist/designer is in real life a total bag of $hit. It's like they expected that because so-and-so is brilliant in their chosen creative field that they have to be that way in daily life as well. It's more than obvious to me that "bad" people can create "good" things, and that there is no connection at all between creative talent and living an ethical life.
Or is there?
I don't think that high achievement in any field----whether artistic, scientific, political, business---- whatever necessarily correlates with having a good character.
I finished a biography on Clark Gable just tonight. His screen persona was larger than life. But he was very private and had fears and anxieties like anyone else. I don't really think it's fair to presume knowing public personalities and judge them by their public image. Granted Justin Bieber is obviously following Lindsey Lohan down a slippery slope (or maybe they are on slopes of their own) but that seems more self destructive.
Take Alice Cooper for example. He's totally dedicated to his craft. He's a born again Christian, has been for years. (and avid golfer) But what do people go to see? I saw him warming up for a show at a casino in Tunica where I was working. I was amazed to see a coffin on stage and the usual gruesome props. AND HE SOUNDED FABULOUS, just like the album I'd owned 20 yrs prior. (that was long ago when I saw him at the casino, probably 2000)
Better yet, take Matt Lauer. How does he get away with being a cheating scumbag and still remain "popular"?? The public is fickle.
Pretty tasteless bringing Cobain into this.
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