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Wow, it looks like what we're having is a cowardly response. Which is, in essence, "La la la, I can't hear you!"
Mel Gibson's Pants, you are still defending the "game" blogs on this thread. In the other Elliot Rodger discussion, you wrote this post in response to my claims about the PUA/"game" blogs being hogwash: //www.city-data.com/forum/35470431-post1694.html
This is also the same blog post which laments that the 19th amendment (woman's suffrage, the right to vote) was ever passed. Yes, women should have never been given the right to vote!
After I posted my response with quotes, you just vanished from that thread. Ignored me and vanished.
Now you show up here, and you're still trying to defend the "game" blogs!
I guess you hope I'll go away if you keep on pretending I don't exist. But unfortunately for you, other people can read what I'm writing and can click on the links and read the blogs that you have been praising. But I guess you're now going to complain that we're feminazis because we can read that your guys wish we couldn't vote? LOL
Isn't it amazing the BS these people with low self-esteem will come up with to feel better about themselves? Heaven forbid they should do something useful in life, though. They'd probably keel over from fright if they had to make a real effort in life.
The half-dozen times I've read the "manosphere" blogs – PUA, MRA, Anti-PUA, MGTOW and all the rest of the alphabet soup – one thing really stood out to me: the kindergarten mentality of "boys against girls" that these grown-ass men, many of them in their 30s and 40s, and sometimes even in their 50s, possess. These men wonder why women won't give them the time of day? They should look no further than how they choose to spend their free time...cavorting on sites where they evaluate other men's faces, pecs, and butts, compare men to "stallions" and "steeds," and structure their lives around impressing other men and making them feel awe and jealousy. While maintaining the same philosophy, "Girls have cooties, ewwww!", that many of them professed at age 5 or 6.
I pointed this out to my wife as well, and she remarked that she always felt put off and annoyed by the guys who try that 'pick-up' crap, such as 'negging' because she got the sense that they had no interest in her or any other woman – it was all about impressing the other dudebros.
In fact I feel my wife is too kind. The way these guys (and Elliot Rodger) talk about other men (and their need for men's approval) makes me think they should de-prioritize romantic relationships with women in favor of spending as much free time as possible with their buddies, who clearly mean the world to them, since winning their approval is their top priority in life. And within that group, I think a handful would be happiest of all if they forgot about women, since they really don't LIKE women, in favor of dating their buddies. Men who are sexually attracted to women don't fill page after page with screeds about how women look like trash after their 25th birthday, have low IQ's, the mental capacity of children, and are otherwise inferior in every single way, and in the next breath, swoon over the intelligence, sophistication, wit, and "pecs" of some "Alpha male" they want to impress.
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This is also the same blog post which laments that the 19th amendment (woman's suffrage, the right to vote) was ever passed. Yes, women should have never been given the right to vote!
That blog is an EXCELLENT example of my basic philosophy when it comes to the "manosphere." When I read a blog like Chateau Hartiste, I immediately envision a little boy on a playground, pulling a girl's pigtails, stomping his foot and shouting that boys are better than girls (and/or "girls have cooties"), and trying to win over the most popular boy in the class by waving around a new toy Daddy bought for him.
These morons can dress it up however they want to, but at the end of the day, the one thing separating them from the first graders they never stopped being at heart is a somewhat larger vocabulary.
I've come to find out what women say what they want, and what they actually respond to are 2 totally different things. Not always, but I notice it a lot. Or sometimes women just don't know what they actually want period.
As I said: men often lie to women about what they want, while women lie to themselves about what they want. They say "I love nerds!" By that they mean they'll call the six foot underwear model they're in love with a "nerd". They say they don't do casual sex...except for those eight or ten "mistakes" they had and keep having
The half-dozen times I've read the "manosphere" blogs – PUA, MRA, Anti-PUA, MGTOW and all the rest of the alphabet soup – one thing really stood out to me: the kindergarten mentality of "boys against girls" that these grown-ass men, many of them in their 30s and 40s, and sometimes even in their 50s, possess. These men wonder why women won't give them the time of day? They should look no further than how they choose to spend their free time...cavorting on sites where they evaluate other men's faces, pecs, and butts, compare men to "stallions" and "steeds," and structure their lives around impressing other men and making them feel awe and jealousy. While maintaining the same philosophy, "Girls have cooties, ewwww!", that many of them professed at age 5 or 6.
I pointed this out to my wife as well, and she remarked that she always felt put off and annoyed by the guys who try that 'pick-up' crap, such as 'negging' because she got the sense that they had no interest in her or any other woman – it was all about impressing the other dudebros.
In fact I feel my wife is too kind. The way these guys (and Elliot Rodger) talk about other men (and their need for men's approval) makes me think they should de-prioritize romantic relationships with women in favor of spending as much free time as possible with their buddies, who clearly mean the world to them, since winning their approval is their top priority in life. And within that group, I think a handful would be happiest of all if they forgot about women, since they really don't LIKE women, in favor of dating their buddies. Men who are sexually attracted to women don't fill page after page with screeds about how women look like trash after their 25th birthday, have low IQ's, the mental capacity of children, and are otherwise inferior in every single way, and in the next breath, swoon over the intelligence, sophistication, wit, and "pecs" of some "Alpha male" they want to impress.
You nailed it. Thank you! They're like children who just aren't able to grow up and become men.
The half-dozen times I've read the "manosphere" blogs – PUA, MRA, Anti-PUA, MGTOW and all the rest of the alphabet soup – one thing really stood out to me: the kindergarten mentality of "boys against girls" that these grown-ass men, many of them in their 30s and 40s, and sometimes even in their 50s, possess. These men wonder why women won't give them the time of day?
Ever read the girl blogs? It's the same thing: "why can't I find that six ten, billionaire who is so suave? It couldn't possibly be because I'm an overweight gold digger, could it"
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I pointed this out to my wife as well, and she remarked that she always felt put off and annoyed by the guys who try that 'pick-up' crap, such as 'negging' because she got the sense that they had no interest in her or any other woman – it was all about impressing the other dudebros.
In fact I feel my wife is too kind. The way these guys (and Elliot Rodger) talk about other men (and their need for men's approval) makes me think they should de-prioritize romantic relationships with women in favor of spending as much free time as possible with their buddies, who clearly mean the world to them, since winning their approval is their top priority in life. And within that group, I think a handful would be happiest of all if they forgot about women, since they really don't LIKE women, in favor of dating their buddies. Men who are sexually attracted to women don't fill page after page with screeds about how women look like trash after their 25th birthday, have low IQ's, the mental capacity of children, and are otherwise inferior in every single way, and in the next breath, swoon over the intelligence, sophistication, wit, and "pecs" of some "Alpha male" they want to impress.
Actually it's more often women who care what their friends will think about their partners, not men. Women will often say "I like him so much, I don't care what my friends think!" Men, on the other hand, don't have to make those statements because they generally don't care what their friends think and it goes without saying.
Maybe you need to join that girls' blog. You seem to be competing with it.
I'm always honest with women: I'm not a fan of casual sex but at the same time don't want anything too serious, at least for the time being.
All I've been saying is that there are certain things men can do to meet women and have a "foot in the door" and it isn't being "nice" or "being yourself" as much as it is understanding the way people think and talking to a lot of people and not worrying about rejection.
If you can show me a scientific study (repeat: SCIENCE, NOT PERSONAL ANECDOTES) that women like nice guys who "act themselves", I'll listen.
I was a nice guy who just "was myself" for years and I was luckless...I started following the science and acted like my "other self" and got somewhere.
I'm always honest with women: I'm not a fan of casual sex but at the same time don't want anything too serious, at least for the time being.
All I've been saying is that there are certain things men can do to meet women and have a "foot in the door" and it isn't being "nice" or "being yourself" as much as it is understanding the way people think and talking to a lot of people and not worrying about rejection.
If you can show me a scientific study (repeat: SCIENCE, NOT PERSONAL ANECDOTES) that women like nice guys who "act themselves", I'll listen.
I was a nice guy who just "was myself" for years and I was luckless...I started following the science and acted like my "other self" and got somewhere.
Okay. May I ask what things you changed?
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