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As I pointed out, before android phones there were only magazines.
You still haven't answered my question though. How do you know for sure that guys are constantly looking at porn on their smart phones? Or are you just assuming.
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Maybe this is why 20 businessmen on another thread were reported as saying that a relationship takes "too much work". It's easier to turn to porn? No need to deal with humans and their complexities at all.
Are you referring to that thread from 49ersfan? If so that's not exactly what they said and even if they did say that so what? That's their problem. They already stated that they are not attracted to women so it doesn't look like it's going to effect anyone else but themselves.
sadly...in this culture one could substitute the word...football, baseball, soccer, hockey..etc...you see, the guy that spends hours in front of his computer bangin' his 'drum' watching porn is no different than the rabid sports fan who can not last a day without finding the scores, banging that phone of his incessently, always reminds you how 'his' team did, etc...you know these guys!
whether it be porn, sports, american idol or any bullsh*t on tv, it's all there to keep you occupied, ya know, from asking the real questions...edward bernays would be very proud, and quite frankly he deserves a pat on the back!
sadly...in this culture one could substitute the word...football, baseball, soccer, hockey..etc...you see, the guy that spends hours in front of his computer bangin' his 'drum' watching porn is no different than the rabid sports fan who can not last a day without finding the scores, banging that phone of his incessently, always reminds you how 'his' team did, etc...you know these guys!
whether it be porn, sports, american idol or any bullsh*t on tv, it's all there to keep you occupied, ya know, from asking the real questions...edward bernays would be very proud, and quite frankly he deserves a pat on the back!
Exactly, it's not just porn. Anything can be addictive.
The problem with a porn or sex addiction is that it is still a hush hush addiction. Not many men will go around (or their spouses for that matter) wanting help/accepting the issue/or overcoming it and telling about because its not an easy thing to explain.
You can walk into any room and say " I was/am an addict to pain killers" and people generally think ok of you. Its easy to explain.
You CANT walk into any room and say " i was addicted to porn" because people have a negative immediate thought on sex/porn.
Look at many of the recovery programs out there- just simply do a quick google search in your area. You will find TONS of AA or Drug addiction programs but how many sex or porn addiction meetings will you find? In my area I know of 2 (maybe there are more but they arent easy to find) and even those 2, you had to know what to look for because they arent even called "Sex addicts anon".
You still haven't answered my question though. How do you know for sure that guys are constantly looking at porn on their smart phones? Or are you just assuming.
I remember seeing an article recently about teens accessing porn on their phones.
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Are you referring to that thread from 49ersfan? If so that's not exactly what they said and even if they did say that so what? That's their problem. They already stated that they are not attracted to women so it doesn't look like it's going to effect anyone else but themselves.
That is what they said when he followed up with them on it. He thought it was a mass case of shyness, but they said no, relationships are too much work. If he knows 20 guys like that (which is a lot, in one person's circle of friends), who knows how many more guys there are out there who (claim to) have no interest in women? No wonder there are women out there (and on our forum) who say they can't find a guy, they never get approached, etc. And the percentage of long-term singles of all ages in our society is climbing. It doesn't affect just the 20 dudes who have dropped out of the social scene (or 2000 dudes, or more). It affects women, and society at large.
I remember seeing an article recently about teens accessing porn on their phones.
That is what they said when he followed up with them on it. He thought it was a mass case of shyness, but they said no, relationships are too much work. If he knows 20 guys like that (which is a lot, in one person's circle of friends), who knows how many more guys there are out there who (claim to) have no interest in women? No wonder there are women out there (and on our forum) who say they can't find a guy, they never get approached, etc.
Maybe because those women are not approachable and need to work on that. It's funny though if it we're guys saying they can't get dates then people wouldn't blame the women they would blame the guys. So now some women say that they never get approached, it's not their fault, it's men's fault for not approaching them.
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And the percentage of long-term singles of all ages in our society is climbing. It doesn't affect just the 20 dudes who have dropped out of the social scene (or 2000 dudes, or more). It affects women, and society at large.
No, I'm pretty sure it effects those guys and only those guys. There are still plenty of suitable guys out there that will still approach women and find partners. I mean seriously, how does 20 men or even 2000 men withdrawing themselves from dating effect society? And even moreso from a purely social standpoint what obligation do they have to society?
Porn is a godsend for guys like me. I'm poor, not good looking, and have very bad social skills so finding a mate is not possible. Although I admit my daily several hour viewing of porn over the years has very much desensitized me to the point where I hardly watch it or think about sex at all anymore. This can be either a blessing or a curse.
I feel that it has effected other parts of my life as well. For example, I have almost no ambition and have worked a near minimum wage job for nearly 20 years. The urge to acquire a mate (something I have lost) motivates most men to get high paying careers, to get nice cars, to work out in the gym and so on.
Am I the only one that is connecting the dots? I see more and more young men each day posting about their lack of success with real women/fear of even approaching them and can't help but think that what they do in their free time to "take care" of their physical needs is a major factor in their poor social development with the opposite sex. What are your thoughts on this?
The thing is, Porn is the ultimate look but don't touch. The women are not real and just a fantasy. You couldn't touch them if even if they wanted to. All you do is look at a girl do her thing and masturbate and there is some fulfillment in that.
However, This can be a problem for men who Have had absolutely horrible luck with women. They see women around them and interact with them all the time, but never with their clothes off. In other words, They only see the side where they are normal people. Their naked and sexual side is just a fantasy, essentially the same thing as porn.
So it can be positive and negative. Positive because it helps you get off and takes care of your physical "needs", but also negative because it can be a constant reminder that yes women are sexual, but not for you
Okay, a more detailed response, and hopefully not TMI.
I'm actually trying to decrease my porn usage.
I find it really easy to orgasm when watching a hardcore porn, but softcore porn, and even clothed sexy pics of girls, don't always get me going. I simply can't ***. This would be a problem if I was in a relationship, because I wouldn't be able to just get aroused by looking at a girl.
I read on a different forum that, if a guy can't get a fully erect penis by just looking at a sexy girl in public, and he's under the age of 40, there is something wrong there. I remember how even just the hint of a breast used to make me get an erection. Porn has sort of ruined it.
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The thing is, Porn is the ultimate look but don't touch. The women are not real and just a fantasy. You couldn't touch them if even if they wanted to. All you do is look at a girl do her thing and masturbate and there is some fulfillment in that.
However, This can be a problem for men who Have had absolutely horrible luck with women. They see women around them and interact with them all the time, but never with their clothes off. In other words, They only see the side where they are normal people. Their naked and sexual side is just a fantasy, essentially the same thing as porn.
So it can be positive and negative. Positive because it helps you get off and takes care of your physical "needs", but also negative because it can be a constant reminder that yes women are sexual, but not for you
Exactly.
If I were able to live outside my fantasy world, I would have sex. Because I rely on porn, I'm a 31 year old virgin.
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Porn is a godsend for guys like me. I'm poor, not good looking, and have very bad social skills so finding a mate is not possible...
THAT is the problem with TV, porn on the internet, etc. It is NOT real life!
In the fantasy world of TV, everyone is rich and good looking and it is implied that being exceptionally good looking/rich are the things which will get you that mate...
However in REAL LIFE, that is not true. There is somebody for everybody - go out to stores (Walmart) and look around. People who are not good looking at all are there with their mates. That is real life.
So I don't care how "not good looking" or "poor" someone is, there are hundreds of thousands of people in the same boat who do find a mate!
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