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The high rate of porn consumption shows just how many people are filling an unmet need, both men and women. It doesn't wreck marriages, the marriage was a wreck in the first place; people use porn as a scapegoat rather than admit they didn't fulfill their spouses needs.
I see a lot of posts addressing porn addiction. Addiction to anything is harmful. The OP was about porn, not addiction, and to conflate the two is disingenuous.
I've brought up similar in several posts but no one will address it. That is not only "children" but all people who seem to have a problem with others watching it. Why violence gets a pass on the screen is something I have never understood.
I'm not into porn myself and never watch it.
Amateur erotica, yes. But even that is very difficult for me to find something I like. I find almost all porn is total garbage but I have nothing against those who watch it.
John,
Maybe it's time to start a different thread about the violence in movies. I'm concerned about that too. Maybe this is the right time to start that discussion.
As for erectile dysfunction... if I were to speculate I would say it's probably more due to men cumming from the porn and not having anything left for their SOs...
Well, there's that, but according to sex columnist Dan Savage, it comes from the male *ahem* "anatomy" getting used to the hand pressure, to the point that the "real thing" doesn't provide enough stimulation/pressure for them. Men who have been masturbating for too long too often, need to gradually re-sensitize themselves in order to be able to enjoy intercourse.
Last edited by Ruth4Truth; 08-31-2014 at 12:54 PM..
You need to make a choice. Does research mean something or doesn't it? Because you keep posting your silly 'studies' and videos but when anybody else posts research to refute it you say "anyone can put up a website and say whatever they want" and "for the people quoting 'studies' and 'psychologists'... there aren't any unanimous, concrete conclusions on the matter."
The article I said that about contained ZERO references to any studies... the link's name is 'fight the new drug' and the site has an agenda that it doesn't even try to hide. It's not science, it's some sort of politically motivated crusade.
The second link actually went to a different article on exactly the same site. I found a better, less slanted article here:
However, the researchers caution that this does not necessarily mean that pornography itself is addictive. Previous studies have suggested that as many as one in 25 adults is affected by compulsive sexual behaviour, an obsession with sexual thoughts, feelings or behaviour which they are unable to control.
So people who have difficulty controlling their impulses are more likely to have difficulty breaking the porn habit-- but it's possible that their habit isn't actually created by the porn, it's created by a pre-existing condition.
This also explains the 'grey matter' study-- men with less grey matter in the brain are more likely to have a harder time controlling their impulses, making them more susceptible to addictions in general.
This thread isn't about whether people with poor impulse control will be addicted to porn, but whether porn in itself can cause addiction.
People with poor impulse control can also be addicted to video games, books, guns, sex, food, etc... possibly even all of them.
Last edited by Spatula City; 08-31-2014 at 01:00 PM..
Well, there's that, but according to sex columnist Dan Savage, it comes from the male *ahem* "anatomy" getting used to the hand pressure, to the point that the "real thing" doesn't provide enough stimulation/pressure for them. Men who have been masturbating for too long, too often need to gradually re-sensitize themselves in order to be able to enjoy intercourse.
Porn doesn't make you hold your junk tighter.
The issue here seems to be masturbation techniques, not porn.
And there are plenty of other reasons why men masturbate instead of having sex, most of which revolve around the fact that getting laid isn't always easy, especially in a society with so many deep-seated issues about sex.
Are you blaming women who don't put out for ED?
Last edited by Spatula City; 08-31-2014 at 01:02 PM..
the link's name is 'fight the new drug' and the site has an agenda that it doesn't even try to hide. It's not science, it's some sort of politically motivated crusade.
I will not allow this inaccurate description to go unchallenged. Fight The New Drug is an amazing group of young people who do have an agenda - to educate other young people about the harms of pornography. Their organization has NOTHING to do with religion or legislation, only education and information.
I will not allow this inaccurate description to go unchallenged. Fight The New Drug is an amazing group of young people who do have an agenda - to educate other young people about the harms of pornography. Their organization has NOTHING to do with religion or legislation, only education and information.
I don't know how you're not getting that referring to porn as a drug and asking people to fight it isn't exactly the same as 'let's wait and be sure about this before we take action'.
If I said that religion was a drug and started a site that said 'Fight The Old Drug', then wouldn't you perhaps think that I was just looking to rally a bunch of people who hate religion together and try to get others to think as we do?
These people are angry, prejudiced and they don't understand what they're fighting against.
The high rate of porn consumption shows just how many people are filling an unmet need, both men and women. It doesn't wreck marriages, the marriage was a wreck in the first place; people use porn as a scapegoat rather than admit they didn't fulfill their spouses needs.
I see a lot of posts addressing porn addiction. Addiction to anything is harmful. The OP was about porn, not addiction, and to conflate the two is disingenuous.
My question is: Does porn viewing CREATE a need for more and worse (for lack of a better word) porn? Do you get desensitized to the light stuff and have to move to heavier and heavier porn to get turned on? Porn is not rooted in reality. It's fantasy. Does the fantasy have to cross more and more boundaries each time for it to fulfill the same need? Does it desensitize men?
Porn doesn't make you hold your junk tighter.
The issue here seems to be masturbation techniques, not porn.
And there are plenty of other reasons why men masturbate instead of having sex, most of which revolve around the fact that getting laid isn't always easy, especially in a society with so many deep-seated issues about sex.
Are you blaming women who don't put out for ED?
That's not what the OP said. The person you were answering said that masturbation results in getting used to hand pressure as opposed to a vagina. I'm not a man but I'd be willing to bet they don't feel the same.
(I see all this in my body builder, studdly, 'Christian' friend Jeff...who isn't having sex with his wife …why? Bec in her 50s now, has gained maybe 15 pounds...and he knows he is acting shallow...but says he "can't help it"...visually, he is not turned on anymore...so what is going on?
He is getting BJs in his car! Oy vey...a lot of woman in those gyms...)
Cheating was invented at the same time as the concept of a wife or husband, somewhere between 25,000 and 50,000 years ago. Your studly friend would have cheated on his wife before the Internet and without porn.
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