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Old 08-31-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I probably saved my life being a strict vegetarian for over 15 years....no eggs or anything made with eggs.
Now, I should check my arteries and cholesterol...I will.

I saw a PBS and remember one sentence..."Cows are killing us from their graves."

I'm cutting back, and certainly buy grass fed...and the less fat the better....on org chicken, also.

I am and look so much healthier now.
My blood type is good with meat.
OT, but out of curiosity, why are eggs considered bad? My daughter recently went vegan, and I've always figured I'll end up a lacto-ovo vegetarian because as I get older I think of the animals more and it bothers me, but I don't feel as if I'm harming a chicken by eating eggs. As a matter of fact, I get eggs when I can from a place near me that has its chickens running around in a pasture. They look pretty happy and not overpopulated as they would be if all their eggs were fertilized and became chickens.

Same with dairy. If the cows are not mistreated, what's wrong with taking their milk?

I have a coworker who is a Jain, a religion where they have reverence for all life and won't even kill bugs. He told me that they believe it's beneficial to the cow to take her milk. On the other hand, he won't eat potatoes or root vegetables because you kill the plant by taking the root.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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It's hard to know if your facebook friends were truly being mean-spirited, or just teasing you a bit. Unless these people are going on and on about it, I'd just try to have a sense of humor about it. There's humor in just about every situation, IMO, and many friendships include a bit of teasing.
A response of great common sense. Much ado about nothing in the OP.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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How does NOT doing something threaten someone? I simply don't understand that kind of mentality.
You wouldn't believe the reactions I've gotten when I'm at some kind of dinner or party, and I politely decline alcohol. Some people really light into you, as if you're making a statement about them, a condemnation. Some people are extremely defensive and insecure. Humans are quite a mixed bag, and can be completely irrational.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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OT, but out of curiosity, why are eggs considered bad? My daughter recently went vegan, and I've always figured I'll end up a lacto-ovo vegetarian because as I get older I think of the animals more and it bothers me, but I don't feel as if I'm harming a chicken by eating eggs. As a matter of fact, I get eggs when I can from a place near me that has its chickens running around in a pasture. They look pretty happy and not overpopulated as they would be if all their eggs were fertilized and became chickens.

Same with dairy. If the cows are not mistreated, what's wrong with taking their milk?

I have a coworker who is a Jain, a religion where they have reverence for all life and won't even kill bugs. He told me that they believe it's beneficial to the cow to take her milk. On the other hand, he won't eat potatoes or root vegetables because you kill the plant by taking the root.
There's still a belief (despite it being discredited in recent years) that the cholesterol in eggs, meat, dairy etc. is bad for you and causes heart disease when it appears to be that heart disease is more common due to inflammation caused from other sources in our diet, such as heavily processed foods with highly refined sugar or sugar substitutes, etc. The fat and cholesterol found in meat, eggs, and dairy like butter (especially when they're free ranging, pasture raised, and all that), as well as in plant based foods like avocados, coconut (oil) and nuts or nut oils, can actually be good for you. We now have a better understanding of the difference between good, and not good cholesterol and that the former helps keep the latter in check, and that avoiding it altogether can cause more problems than it is intended to prevent.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The Carolinas
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Being a vegetarian is the gastronomic equivalent of being an atheist in a religious area. They feel like there's something "wrong" with you and by their own, internal belief, that you feel there is something "wrong" with them, regardless of what you say.

Those people are not really your friends--they're acquaintances. Don't let anyone sway you from your beliefs--regardless of what they are.

Remember: EVERYBODY is somebody's "weirdo". Those of you who think you're "normal"? Yep. There's someone out there who thinks you're weird.
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:27 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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OT, but out of curiosity, why are eggs considered bad? My daughter recently went vegan, and I've always figured I'll end up a lacto-ovo vegetarian because as I get older I think of the animals more and it bothers me, but I don't feel as if I'm harming a chicken by eating eggs. As a matter of fact, I get eggs when I can from a place near me that has its chickens running around in a pasture. They look pretty happy and not overpopulated as they would be if all their eggs were fertilized and became chickens.

Same with dairy. If the cows are not mistreated, what's wrong with taking their milk?

I have a coworker who is a Jain, a religion where they have reverence for all life and won't even kill bugs. He told me that they believe it's beneficial to the cow to take her milk. On the other hand, he won't eat potatoes or root vegetables because you kill the plant by taking the root.
I agree with dairy and eggs IF the cows are not mistreated. However, dairy cows are often mistreated in our factory farming system. If you know someone with a local farm and well-treated animals, I see nothing wrong with it.

Same with egg-laying hens. They are treated like shyte in most factory farming operations - but if you know that small farmer with happy hens, I think that's fantastic!

PS; My son is a vegetarian who continues to eat eggs and cheese and I wish I could find those local farms.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I first became a vegetarian at 13 and heard *all* the jokes through high school.

Since I was pregnant with my second child I have gone on and off being vegetarian several times.

Now at 39 - after many years of eating very little meat anyway - I've decided to stop eating meat again. I am doing it as much as for ethical and environmental reasons as for health. I DO NOT badger people about eating meat, not a member of PETA, don't post cruelty videos on FB, etc. I am not an in-your-face or judgmental vegetarian, and I never have been.

I posted on FB that I was looking for new meatless recipes, and almost immediately 3 old friends post the whole "my favorite vegetarian meal is steak," pictures of bacon, etc. rigmarole. Ha ha, hilarious. I mean, really? We are all in our late 30's-40's and it's 2014; being vegetarian is very common now.

So, why do some people still think that mocking vegetarianism is funny?
First, I would question the level of 'friendship'.

I believe that derogatory statements made against vegetarians and vegans are based on a combination of shame, guilt, denial, ignorance and stupidity.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: U.S. (East Coast)
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Who cares? It doesn't matter. I've been a vegetarian for over 8 years now and have heard it all too. You know my response? "F-off." End of story.

I don't give a sh!it what anyone says, thinks or feels about the choices I make for my life as I make them for MYSELF and not anyone else. I don't give them a second thought.
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Old 08-31-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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OT, but out of curiosity, why are eggs considered bad?
They aren't.
But back then we didn't have the free range eggs available.
Don't ask...I love eggs.
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Old 08-31-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Who cares? It doesn't matter.
I've been a vegetarian for over 8 years now and have heard it all too.
You know my response? "F-off." End of story.

I don't give a sh!it what anyone says, thinks or feels about the choices
I make for my life as I make them for MYSELF and not anyone else.
I don't give them a second thought.
You ARE a Goddess.
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