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Old 11-09-2014, 12:09 AM
 
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lots of helpful info on the term "pedophile". Also note, not everyone who sexually abuses young children are pedophiles. Hard to believe but true.

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No more hard to believe than every machine that makes a copy is not a Xerox.. That every tissue you reach for isn't a Kleenex... Part of that is due to hysteria over childhood sexuality. It's a term that's been hijacked to apply to a broad range of situations.. Most of which are incorrect usages of the term.

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Why the hell did you put victim in quotes? If an adult man rapes a young girl - no matter how "willing" he [i]perceives[i] her to be - she's a VICTIM.
Victim can go in quotes just as rape could in the situation described. Statuatory rape and rape are two completely different things. One is lack of consent, other is lack of legal consent. One involves the use of force, the other does not. While the black and white charge of statuatory rape is clear in a situation.. The details are the grey area and where consideration would be given at sentencing. I have no idea what the sentencing guidelines are for something like that, but, let's say statuatory rape carries a 2 to 20 year sentence.. An 18 year old having sex with a 15 1/2 year old might go towards the low end of that.. Whereas a 45 year old having sex with a 12 year old who was under the care of the 45 year old, might go towards the high end.

Believe it or not, there are teens under the age of consent that actively seek out older partners. I think it's probably fact that many teen guys will screw anything on two legs that's willing, fewer of them are seeking out an older partner, they're just seeking a partner.. Teen girls, at least in our society's view, try to remain 'pure'. That is mostly BS, but..

The other thought process on it, since we're basically a patriarchial society, whether we admit it or not, even when a female has sex with a teen boy.. The male still 'holds the power', so he must have tricked or somehow forced her into sex.. The male was 'in control'. Views on this are changing, as we can see from the rash of prosecutions in the past 15 years or so.

I disagree that EVERY person who is 15 and has sex with an 18 year old is a victim. Legally, yes, they are.. Psychologically.. Not necessarily. But.. There has to be a line drawn, otherwise we get courts trying to 'interpret' things.. So, while the situations have many shades of grey.. The law does have to be black and white.

Again, I always refer back to this..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-EU_l_pKA

Prior to, about 15 years ago.. That's how things were. Views are changing on it, but you can't expect them to change completely in 15 years. 40 years ago, in Sweden (I think) it was legal to produce child pornography, and it could be bought in the same shops as 'normal' porn. Views change, but rarely do they change quickly.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:39 AM
 
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Well, when I was 16, I would have enjoyed being "raped" by one of these 20-something teachers. Have you looked at their pictures? Some of them are hot!
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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This is something that has been bothering me for years. Why aren't female pedophiles viewed as negatively as male pedophiles in our society? Their are so many cases of female teachers sleeping with underage male students and yet most people don't seem to get upset but when an adult male sleeps with an underage female "all hell breaks loose" and people are ready to crucify him. If Jerry Sandusky was a female, I highly doubt people would've cared as much. Why do we have this double standard in our society?

Because it's just different. Guys are just build different than girls. What 15 or 16 year old teenage boy hasn't fantasized about banging a hot teacher or a friends older sister?

Ask yourself this question. How traumatizing would this experience be for a teenage boy? Not at all! What about a teenage girl? Not good.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: PANAMA
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The ex Ravens cheeleader case:

Ex-Ravens cheerleader charged with raping 15-year-old boy - CBSSports.com

Not only she is a pedophile but has kids as well, in fact one of her own kids gave the victims' phone number because she was obsessed with him.

The horror...
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Well, when I was 16, I would have enjoyed being "raped" by one of these 20-something teachers. Have you looked at their pictures? Some of them are hot!
Yet another one chimes in to prove my point.

I seriously hope you never breed.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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There is an imbalance of power and emotional and psychological impacts to the underage person. Teens have many sexual fantasies that need to stay that way in order not to do psychological damage.

I imagine the reason why the boy with the cheerleader abuser told his dad because he felt internal conflicts over the abuse.
I highly doubt this. He may have had religious society try to guilt trip him into feeling some shame and guilty, but it was those people that manipulated him, not the woman he was sleeping with.

Keep telling yourself that lie and you'll be able to believe it. Humans are not inherently facing internal conflicts about these things.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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The ex Ravens cheeleader case:

Ex-Ravens cheerleader charged with raping 15-year-old boy - CBSSports.com

Not only she is a pedophile but has kids as well, in fact one of her own kids gave the victims' phone number because she was obsessed with him.

The horror...
Stop calling him a victim. He didn't say he was a victim. He appears to have been happy in the moment and after the fact. Do you have some video of him crying about he was used? She was having a relationship with the young man.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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Yet another one chimes in to prove my point.

I seriously hope you never breed.
My first time was with an older woman...not exactly the best experience, but I was free of the "stigma" of being a "virgin". I was like 16 yr old.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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Stop calling him a victim. He didn't say he was a victim. He appears to have been happy in the moment and after the fact. Do you have some video of him crying about he was used? She was having a relationship with the young man.
Next time...she may try to have the "young man" over 18.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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Yet another one chimes in to prove my point.

I seriously hope you never breed.
Don't hate.

There is no value in hating. Just because someone doesn't subscribe to your view of life and religion doesn't mean there is anything wrong with them. Many men, who face less guilt trips for accepting their sexuality, have nothing against being involved with educated and attractive women. This woman fit both of those characteristics. It isn't up to us to determine that he was a victim. It isn't our place. When he decides to have sex, we need to have a warm glass of ****. If he actually feels "raped", then I will be with you in defending him, but it is not our place to decide for him that he was raped. It shouldn't be the place of the police department to make that determination either. Prosecuting someone for a "crime" in which the "victim" thinks "I had a ****ing awesome summer" is beyond mere stupidity. It is intentional ignorance.
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