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Its true. I didn't say depressed people deserved to be hated by themselves or anyone. I have been depressed and felt like people hated me, but I hated me. If I acted out, people hated how I acted. But really, its just projection of how you feel about yourself, especially if a blanket "the world hates me". Thats clearly not accurate. It might feel that way, but feelings aren't facts.
I don't know where else to write out my frustration, because other forums have banned me for being misogynist, narcissist, and a troll/spammer. I'm the real thing, a real person who has serious frustrations that require therapy. I know I'm depressed, socially awkward, and possibly on the autism scale. But it takes a serious effort to get out of here, it takes a serious effort to become attractive. However things like depression, low self-esteem, and social awkwardness can really take a physical toll on you. They can make you really frustrated, yet really unmotivated, to the point where you are an unemployed loser living surrounded by garbage. And that sort of condition makes a person write angry, irrational posts on the internet as a cry for attention.
Attention and pity, that's all sometimes someone like that person ever wants besides a mental health professional, friends, and physical contact from women, contact like being able to feel someone's hand or get a hug. But hugs and attention can only be given to someone who is already friends with that person. For the lonely, depressed man no such person exists, thus we resort to the internet to write our incoherent ramblings, though as not to go insane. But the internet doesn't let us.
/rant
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You know what the weird thing is? When I went to post on a forum for narcissists and asked for help, I was rejected by them too, because somehow I'm not a real narcissist.
However, the real knife in the chest is reading the internet about stories of people in similar conditions (depression, anxiety, awkwardness, mental health, etc) and reading how many of those people all have or had have relationships.
For what it's worth, I never express my anger or frustration in real life. I don't want to be the same person that a person/people was/were towards me that led to my condition. In person I'm one of those nice guys that you can depend on as classmate, coworker (or friend whenever one is fortunate to possess that luxury). But apparently that doesn't count if you are emotionally scarred and nervous and tense around people. The internet doesn't like those people.
And I know my rants are not based on rational arguments. I don't actually hate women and I think that for the most part, women and company are the greatest luxury nature has ever gave us. I just get irrational sometimes and I don't really know how to type about the unfairness that is a lack of social skills that one gets due to seeking isolation as a defense when being confronted with bullying and abuse.
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Yes I know all about the hashed advice that the internet gives to men like me. I know all about exercise, therapy, new hobbies, meetup.com, employment, etc. But it's really difficult to get a start on those when you are so depressed you lose the motivation for life in general, it's really hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
You're clearly intelligent enough to connect the dots and realize that when you act out against others in frustration, they are going to lash back at you and you will likely end up getting banned as a result. So, as the old joke goes, if it hurts when you do that, well then, stop doing that. From what you've said, you're able to control your behavior in person. Logically, then, you should be able to do the same on the internet. If you must vent your frustration, then simply open a Word document, and type away to your heart's content. You can save it on your computer as part of a private journal, or delete it when you feel better. When you are in a better frame of mind, then you can provide a more well-reasoned response to whatever triggered your outburst in the first place.
Honestly guys, I think depressed people hate themselves and project it on the world
It's apparent this topic originated from the Relationships board.
This response is so typical of the hate over there, especially towards men in the OP's predicament.
Last edited by John13; 11-16-2014 at 02:55 PM..
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OP, just dont be depressed. refuse delivery of the condition. when depression knocks at your door, look it square in the eye, smile, then grab it by the throat and kick in the testicles as hard as you can. and continue kicking until you feel better.
once you feel better hold on hard to those feelings, and go out into the world with a new positive out look on life in general.
If you want to go the alternative route, work on your liver.. an unhealthy liver usually contributes to anger.
Some suggestions for a liver detox:
-Cranberry juice (more preferably lemon juice if you can gulp down with large cup of water, de-chorinated)
-Milk Thistle (by Gaia)
-L-Threonine
-Sam-e (100 mg every other day, ween off if you feel insomnia)
-Methionine
I have family history of those who had depression and committed suicide while on SSRIs. So you can understand why I am reluctant to take them.
There are more antidepressants and mood stabilizers beyond SSRIs. I agree that you at least need a medication evaluation.
I also agree that being a depressed male is extremely difficult in our society. Although I can assure you that being a depressed female is no picnic either.
Working in the field, I rarely, if ever, saw discrimination against "depressed MALES" any more than females.
You need to remove yourself from message boards like these if you really want/need help. Many people on message boards like this are only going to reinforce bias towards depression and "invisible disabilities" in general.
Talk to people who are trained to treat depression.
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