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Old 03-04-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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Now I am not saying I condone it, but along with just the brutality of it, I have heard many times that torture is not a reliable means of getting information from someone. Why exactly?

If you torture someone isn't it likely they'll spill the beans if you make them suffer enough to make it stop? And if it isn't a good way to get information then why has it always been used so often since the beginning of human history?
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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because they will say anything to get you to stop.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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because they will say anything to get you to stop.
This.

/end thread.
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Old 03-04-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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because they will say anything to get you to stop.
But if it is proven that they give false information wouldn't they know they'll just be back with a vengeance and inflict possibly worse torture? Thus if you want the torture to stop it's better to be honest, no? If I was being tortured I'd certainly feel that way. Again, if it's not reliable then why has it always been used?
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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Because they will tell you what you want to here. Even without ;you need something other to tell when and if they are telling the truth.
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:13 AM
 
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But if it is proven that they give false information wouldn't they know they'll just be back with a vengeance and inflict possibly worse torture? Thus if you want the torture to stop it's better to be honest, no? If I was being tortured I'd certainly feel that way. Again, if it's not reliable then why has it always been used?
Torture is used to extract information. So what if someone doesn't have any information? They'll still torture him/her. When a person is under extreme pain, same person will tell/do everything the person who inflicts this pain wants, because it triggers a fight and flight response in the brain. Just like in police questioning people often make a confession, just because they are tired, threatened and want it to end.

Torture is by no means a reliable way to extract information from somebody. Why it has always been used?
Why does public execution exist? Because some people are sadistic creeps.
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Old 03-05-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Torture is used to extract information..
And also because it is fun. Sadistic administrators wouldn't do it, if they didn't enjoy it so much.

Historically, torture was rarely used to gain information, but rather on a presumption of guilt, to elicit the confession necessary to justify the incarceration and punishment.

Typically, people are rounded up at random, presumed to be guilty, tortured until they admitted some vague connection with something, and the sadists would say "There, see, I told you they were guilty", with a Runsfeldian smirk. If some useful intelligence came out as well, that was just a cherry on top.

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Old 03-05-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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If you are being made to suffer terrible pain, you will do anything to make it stop. At that moment the pain is all you care about. You simply want to make it stop. Or as in waterboarding, you simply don't want to feel as if you are drowning one more time. So you tell the torturers anything to make them stop torturing you.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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Because torture, like the death penalty, often happens to innocent people.
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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An innocent person will tell you whatever you want to hear eventually, and a guilty person will just spin lie after lie so you can't sort out the truth (or at least that would be my strategy).
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