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Old 08-14-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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So, the consensus opinion of this forum is that the OP (based on his self diagnosis) is teetering on the very brink of the abyss of abject and irremedial lunacy, and his only hope is to immediately consult a doctor, not just any doctor, but one who is renowned as a recognized specialist in OCD.



Thank goodness we have a Health and Wellness forum, where common sense can be countered with a steady drumbeat of "see a doctor" gurus. Just buy your peace of mind from the $4-trillion quack-industrial complex.
No one referred to anything like 'abject and irremediable lunacy', don't be silly. But since the poster's description sounded very much OCD it was suggested that they see a therapist (familiar with the disorder).
As for comment about the quack-industrial complex it's in the wrong place. By all means vent at fat cats getting rich over creating imagined ailments - but OCD isn't one of them. Funny, in the UK for example, patients can see therapists on the NHS, I guess not much of a profit rationale there.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Huh? No one said any of this..
I linked to quotes from two people who did.
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Jtur, it sounds like you are one of those people that choose to normalize "dysfunction" because it's the easier route
I normalize trivial dysfunction. I have plenty of my own, both physical and mental, and I've lived a long and fulfilling life following a policy of medical minimalism. Yes, it's the easiest route, and I see nothing reprehensible about the easiest route.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I linked to quotes from two people who did.


I normalize trivial dysfunction. I have plenty of my own, both physical and mental, and I've lived a long and fulfilling life following a policy of medical minimalism. Yes, it's the easiest route, and I see nothing reprehensible about the easiest route.
The keyword is in fact 'trivial' - and there's nothing wrong with self-sufficient stoicism, but you might consider it's a mistake to attribute one's own subjective experience to others.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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I have problems leaving my house without re-checking things like: lights, faucets, oven, doors, etc. Does anyone else have this problem?
Oh sure.

You need to mentally take note of what you are doing.

We can go through the day subconsciously.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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No, they don't. Isolated instances of double-checking things is completely typical behavior, not a pathology. ACTUAL OCD is not the same thing as having a specific place you store your keys when you come in your door, or keeping your closet orderly. There is a fundamental lack of understanding regarding what constitutes a clinical diagnosis of obsessive- compulsive disorder, and a lot of people who exhibit completely neurotypical behavior co-opt the term to describe behavior that is well within the range of typical and functional.
And another good post. It's become popular for people to claim "I'm a little OCD" as if it's some sort of endearing little personality quirk. And it's bad English, besides.

You can HAVE OCD. You can't BE OCD. That doesn't even make sense.
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Old 08-14-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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And another good post. It's become popular for people to claim "I'm a little OCD" as if it's some sort of endearing little personality quirk. And it's bad English, besides.

You can HAVE OCD. You can't BE OCD. That doesn't even make sense.
True, but I'm guessing you could justify the grammar by claiming it stands for "Obsessively Compulsively Delusional"...(or Obviously Completely Delusional...as most people who claim they are "a little OCD" don't really have an OCD).

You might also guess it possibly stands for "Obsessively Compulsively Disordered," although I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The keyword is in fact 'trivial' - and there's nothing wrong with self-sufficient stoicism, but you might consider it's a mistake to attribute one's own subjective experience to others.
This entire sub-forum's raison-d'etre is to solicit the subjective experiences of others. Any idiot can say "see a doctor" and every poster is already conversant with that option.

In fact, the majority of the threads in this forum are directed at users who have suffered from and addressed the same disorder, not from kibitzers on the side making value judgments on conditions with which they have no personal experience. People who have not had symptoms of OCD nor considered treatment for it do not really have much of relevance to impart to the OP's question about the outcome of OCD approaches..

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Old 08-15-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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This entire sub-forum's raison-d'etre is to solicit the subjective experiences of others. Any idiot can say "see a doctor" and every poster is already conversant with that option.

In fact, the majority of the threads in this forum are directed at users who have suffered from and addressed the same disorder, not from kibitzers on the side making value judgments on conditions with which they have no personal experience. People who have not had symptoms of OCD nor considered treatment for it do not really have much of relevance to impart to the OP's question about the outcome of OCD approaches..
There are a number of posters here who actually trained and work in mental health and have more than an offhand opinion based on something they read on somebody's blog, as well.
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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This entire sub-forum's raison-d'etre is to solicit the subjective experiences of others. Any idiot can say "see a doctor" and every poster is already conversant with that option.

In fact, the majority of the threads in this forum are directed at users who have suffered from and addressed the same disorder, not from kibitzers on the side making value judgments on conditions with which they have no personal experience. People who have not had symptoms of OCD nor considered treatment for it do not really have much of relevance to impart to the OP's question about the outcome of OCD approaches..
1. This is a public forum and it could be dangerous for laymen (including fellow suffers) to give out advice that's too specific without really knowing the person.
2. I believe it's unfortunate that some people will just accept an altered life that may not be the best life they could live.

No one made any value judgements.

However, I will always defend the idea that treatable dysfunction shouldn't be normalized.

Seriously, should the OP potentially put his job in jeopardy because he spends copious amounts of time checking and rechecking things before he can leave the house to go to work? Based on your beliefs, the OP should just "be okay" with all the checking. Then, if the checking expands into other behaviors (as OCD tends to do), the OP should accept the negative after effects of these behaviors (on jobs, relationships, etc)?
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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There are a number of posters here who actually trained and work in mental health and have more than an offhand opinion based on something they read on somebody's blog, as well.
If they do, they know better than to diagnose and prescribe on the flimsy details outlined in an unknown OP's couple of lines.
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