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I totally do not agree. I don't like kids - there are very few exceptions - but in general, no, I don't like kids. That's not the same as saying one doesn't like black people, or another race, etc - I don't see that.
It absolutely is. "Children" is a group of people that encompasses billions, spread across continents and cultures and varying in age from 0 to early teens... to say that you "don't like them" with very few exceptions is basically the same as saying that you don't like people of another race or culture, or old people, or sexual orientations, or whatever other metric we are going to use to isolate these people into a group with very few exceptions. You probably don't see it that way simply because you've told yourself that you don't like them, and who really wants to face the fact that they're harboring a bigoted social opinion?
I totally do not agree. I don't like kids - there are very few exceptions - but in general, no, I don't like kids. That's not the same as saying one doesn't like black people, or another race, etc - I don't see that.
Out of curiosity, what do you see as the difference? Do you not agree that in each case, one is writing off an entire subset of the population wholesale, with little, if any, regard for individual differences within that population?
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I totally do not agree. I don't like kids - there are very few exceptions - but in general, no, I don't like kids. That's not the same as saying one doesn't like black people, or another race, etc - I don't see that.
I agree. The groups he listed are protected classes to one extent or another, children are not.
I agree. The groups he listed are protected classes to one extent or another, children are not.
Children are indeed a protected class - there are many laws designed to protect children from abuse or neglect, which they are unfortunately at much greater risk of experiencing than adults for obvious reasons, and a sprawling social infrastructure in the US to this end (www.childwelfare.gov would be a start).
This is a holiday workday, and kids are running around everywhere. Uh, take a day off work if your kid is out of school? I can only hope none of them is contagious but, invariably, one of them is. If they can bring their kids to work (everyone thinks they're "cute," or say they do, or are at least supposed to pretend they do), I should be allowed to bring my cats!
I don't think there's anything at all with not wanting to have kids, and that anyone who doesn't want them shouldn't have them. No one should be shamed for their desire to not have them any more than they should be shamed for their desire to have them.
I do think there's something wrong with not liking kids, which to me, is like saying that you don't like black people, the disabled, immigrants old people, Jews or Muslims, etc. If you are willing to say that you don't like an entire group wholesale, then you are probably a crappy person. It saddens me that saying "I don't like kids" has become an acceptable stand-in for saying that you don't want them, when they are two extremely different things.
Child molesters like children. I don't like kids enough to be around them for long. But even if I detested kids, that is a whole different thing from liking them and damaging them. Liking does not mean the liker is a decent person.
People should be free to say they don't like kids. I believe that was part of the OP's intention in starting this thread.
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People should be free to say they don't like kids. I believe that was part of the OP's intention in starting this thread.
Exactly. I don't like kids, and I don't care whatsoever if anyone doesn't like me saying that - I'll continue to say it, because it's true, and if people don't like it, they can ignore me. Get over it.
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It absolutely is. "Children" is a group of people that encompasses billions, spread across continents and cultures and varying in age from 0 to early teens... to say that you "don't like them" with very few exceptions is basically the same as saying that you don't like people of another race or culture, or old people, or sexual orientations, or whatever other metric we are going to use to isolate these people into a group with very few exceptions. You probably don't see it that way simply because you've told yourself that you don't like them, and who really wants to face the fact that they're harboring a bigoted social opinion?
Lol, if it's a bigoted social opinion, so be it - I stand by what I say, and I have no issue with it. However, I don't think it is (a bigoted opinion).
Child molesters like children. I don't like kids enough to be around them for long. But even if I detested kids, that is a whole different thing from liking them and damaging them. Liking does not mean the liker is a decent person.
Liking them doesn't automatically make them a good person - of course. Automatically disliking them doesn't necessarily, either, though this implies that the person is at peace with being a bigot.
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People should be free to say they don't like kids. I believe that was part of the OP's intention in starting this thread.
They are free to say they don't like kids - just like people are also free to say that they don't like any other group of people. As soon as you go out there and say, "you know what? I don't like _____ people," don't be surprised when people start viewing you in a negative light. They're well within their rights to do just that.
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Exactly. I don't like kids, and I don't care whatsoever if anyone doesn't like me saying that - I'll continue to say it, because it's true, and if people don't like it, they can ignore me. Get over it.
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Lol, if it's a bigoted social opinion, so be it - I stand by what I say, and I have no issue with it. However, I don't think it is (a bigoted opinion). [/quote]
No one can stop you from saying it or thinking this way, I just think it's sad for someone to be so willfully ignorant.
I enjoy being around kids who have been exposed to little television, and have learned to play naturally outdoors. I can talk bugs, and dinosaurs, and trees and rocks all day with kids like that, and go climb trees with them.
What I cannot stand are the "entitled"-mentality kids who have already internalized that they "deserve" everything just for having been born, and style themselves off of what they see on Disney channel.
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