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Old 12-07-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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Friedrich Nietzsche once said that “sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.”

What do you think about that? Here's an article that expands that...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...03/the-big-lie
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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Thank you for that article, I made a copy.
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Its interesting because if you presuppose we're lying all of the time; in terms of niceties and day to day behavior, then everything in terms of our human interaction already is a farce.

However lies like these are OK if they are 1. inconsequential and 2. are tempered with reason to provide a certain base morality.

I don't have any real issue with that.

Also the temporal nature of feelings and/or existentance leaves many of our interactions in a "truth limbo" where we are experiencing many emotions at once. And the answer to "How is your day?" is "Eh, OK" and that would be perhaps a truth and a lie.

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Bigger picture, it reminds me of Bacon's Destruction of Idols. Where we believe certain things to be true because of habit, authority, etc. And it is our duty to constantly question ourselves and the processes by which we come to believe things.

This can lead down to a vicious cycle of skepticism, but a healthy dose is good from time to time.

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In popular culture it takes a scandal like the Volkswagen Diesel debacle to really hit home the levels of manipulation and outward lies that can happen if there aren't proper checks and balances; both internally and externally. Other factors, like greed or just plain fear trump the truth or moral behavior.

In the end I believe that it isn't so much that people want their illusions destroyed, but rather those "illusions" are what we tell ourselves in order to actually live an absurd life; to ignore that existential dread and turn it into something useful rather than not.
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Its interesting because if you presuppose we're lying all of the time....
Not 'all of the time', when you believe any thoughts are real, you experience those lies.
'Descriptive thoughts' are usually true if others 'see' what you see; it's our assumptions that are questionable; we 'take them for granted as if all are true'.
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