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There are plenty of men who are not even remotely in touch with their bodies either. They are focused on their genitals to the exception of any other sensual explorations. They think good sex is pound! pound! pound away! They pleasure themselves with porn and a vise grip and then wonder why they have a hard time getting off with a woman. They focus on their own desires to the exclusion of their partner's needs, or assume if the sex is good for them then it is good for their partner.
This is not new territory, OP, and it goes both ways.
Amen. OP, what do you have to say about this?
I hate to be cynical, but in your mansplaining, I believe your appeal to women to "get to know their bodies" is really just a veiled method for men to get better or sooner sex from them. I really don't want to use the "P" word either, but many might recognize this "advice" as just another way to assert dominance over women's bodies.
Why don't you leave the female sex advice to other women?
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Why don't you leave the female sex advice to other women?
I think most of these things are human issues, not male or female. We are the same species.
I certainly learned a fair amount as a middle schooler about sex and sexuality from listening to Dr. Ruth's show on the radio. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, I know that sounded a little strident, but there was something about that OP that rubbed me the wrong way. It had a bit of a Humbert Humbert sort of feel to it. And it icked me out there briefly. The idea of a man telling women they need to "loosen up" or "explore her fantasies" in order to serve his needs. That **** just pushes all my buttons.
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Yeah, I know that sounded a little strident, but there was something about that OP that rubbed me the wrong way. It had a bit of a Humbert Humbert sort of feel to it. And it icked me out there briefly. The idea of a man telling women they need to "loosen up" or "explore her fantasies" in order to serve his needs. That **** just pushes all my buttons.
Yeah, I dunno. I can see that. It would be different if someone asked for advice, or if the person has some standing as an authority on the issue, but yeah, random preaching is pretty whack.
I mean, there are some good points in there. Such as a woman that doesn't know what it takes for her to feel good sexually will have trouble with someone else making them feel good in the bedroom too, as they can't communicate their needs. That makes total sense, but I don't understand how this is the proper forum for the lecturing.
Yeah, I dunno. I can see that. It would be different if someone asked for advice, or if the person has some standing as an authority on the issue, but yeah, random preaching is pretty whack.
Pretty much.
The OP is in China, and the "issues" he is apparently running into are generational AND individual.
What good is it going to do for us all to spout random ideas on a forum that doesn't really reach his target audience?
This is an interesting response. Why is the forum PG13 if we are not supposed to bring up subjects like this for discussion? There certainly ARE communities in the USA which discourage women from learning about their bodies and to say there are not women from these communities on CD seems to have a slightly unusual and possibly blinkered approach to real life.
If you are saying that the topic will attract polarised discussion, then that may be the case, but I really do not see why this is the wrong place for a topic like this. If folks dont want to talk about it, then there is even more reason to discuss it and get it out in the open. 5000 years of culture is not going to be changed overnight I agree but at least allow the subject to be discussed.
In introducing the thread, I have to try to get people to think about the subject and I am sorry if it appeard to be a 'lecture'. I did not intend that.
This isn't about "topic not allowed" or "would attract trolling/polarized discussion". I was thinking in practical terms; if you're sincere about reaching a certain demographic of women, this isn't the best way to do it. Who you need to reach are the wives of the guys who start threads complaining about their wives wanting sex only rarely, and the single women who may some day become wives like that. Here on C-D, most of the women don't have the problem you're addressing. It's just not an efficient way to go about your crusade. You might reach a half-dozen women who fall into your target demographic, if that. If you're serious about it, you'll have to figure out something else. Publishing in teen magazines, or something. I think Cosmopolitan is way ahead of you, but it reaches a slightly older group of women. Maybe something like Seventeen Magazine, if they'd allow it....
I agree with the OP that discovery shouldn't be shamed for the good of both sexes but also that the women on C-D are usually more open to this topic than most.
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